Anita Arnand

So when you say you think it might be a made-up story, are you, and without any kind of legal jeopardy attached to this statement, suggesting that the person who put this story around is actually hiding the fact that these could have been nicked from somewhere that they shouldn't have been nicked from?

The Rabelais documents and then falling in love all over the Rabelais documents.

Yes, I see what you mean.

Yes, very good.

I'm obsessed with Budge, if that's possible to be obsessed with Budge, because his story is just so compelling.

I mean, he came from such modest backgrounds, Cornish son of a single mother, self-taught, self-made, and then becomes Cambridge educated, rises up to be the keeper of the Egyptian and Assyrian antiquities at the British Museum.

Which was something very humble, yeah.

But when it comes to let's just leave it at that, he wasn't like, let's not leave it at that.

Because there are some downright scurrilous things written about Budge.

The way in which he got his hands on antiquities.

I mean, there is one, you know, reportedly he dug a hole through a wall of a customs warehouse in Cairo.

to see some artifacts.

Is that true?

I mean, there's one of the things that I'd heard in sort of like Indiana Jones with a sack full of swag just sort of makes off to his academic career.

I mean, is that the kind of thing that you didn't want to go near?

We should say these little tablets that look like Ryvita biscuits.

And if you don't have them in your country, they're sort of like square, brown, unremarkable looking.

Now, you're saying he couldn't have read them because they weren't written in cuneiform solely, were they?

They were also written in a much older language.

Just tell us what was written on them.