Anita Arnon

That's not what he had agreed to.

Santander is challenging him.

He doesn't like that.

Peru is also challenging somewhat his vision because although they give him dictatorial powers or he assumes these dictatorial powers over Peru.

And the Spanish have pegged it and given up.

So, you know, they don't have much say on the matter.

But Ecuador does become a part of Gran Colombia.

Peru does not.

And I maybe should sort of remind people what we mean by Gran Colombia, this great vision of his, of this new united South America.

Because if he'd had his way, all these liberated territories would become this federation of the Andes, this great huge territory.

But when some say, we don't want to, what can you do?

They've got the money and he wants them and he's the dictator, so it's fine by him.

But the ones that are involved, Colombia is at the heart of Gran Colombia.

Bogota is the capital.

Venezuela, Bolivar's birthplace, crucial part of Gran Colombia.

Ecuador joins Gran Colombia after its independence from Spain.

Panama, initially part of Colombia, gets sort of folded into Gran Colombia until it later will get its own independence.

But Peru, no, not so much.

Well, Santander is working hard on it not being a problem.

Bolivar is making it quite difficult, especially when he comes back up to Colombia.