Ankur Desai

Here's Somalia's Minister of Information, Dawood Awais.

Well, what's the view in Somaliland?

Osman Dube used to represent Somaliland in the federal government in Mogadishu.

That means for Somaliland people, I think you have seen how they celebrate it, how they like it.

Because of 34 years, Somaliland people were seeking to get recognition.

And they were just so keen to get that one.

And the first nation become state of Israel.

That's why they become so joyful, extremely happy.

And it means everything.

Osman Dube speaking to the BBC.

Still to come on this podcast, we follow the bird poachers of Beijing.

Eventually, we hear footsteps.

He's there, he's there, he's there.

Go, go, go, he's there.

There?

Yeah, yeah, he's there.

Police across China have launched a three-year crackdown on the illegal trade in wild birds.

I'm Krasivanova Twig from the Global Jigsaw podcast from the BBC, where we are talking Persian poetry in politics.

With its abundance of lovers and wine, Persian poetry sits uneasily with Iran's theocratic rulers.

Yet occasionally, even they turn to verse.