Anna Tijinski

But there aren't good studies that say if you hold and stroke your child for eight hours a day as opposed to 10 hours a day, they will grow up to be, you know, really independent.

Exactly, and across enough time.

I'm so happy I know that because I always felt quite sorry for certain babies if they're left for prolonged periods crying because I think that must be really hurting them at this point.

But now I know they don't.

No way.

If you're trying to sort of reduce the amount that your baby cries in the early days, don't bother.

Because they've done, one of the few reliable studies they have done is looked at all societies, including hunter-gatherer societies, to see which babies cry more or less.

And it's basically exactly the same in terms of frequency that a baby under three months will cry.

I think three months, maybe under two months.

So they cry for less long often in hunter-gatherer societies, largely, I think, because hunter-gatherers tend to pick them up, whereas often in our Western societies, we leave them there.

This is later on, so yes, you're absolutely right.

This was just in the early days.

And then when the babies get older than six weeks or so, then there is a big variation, isn't there?

Yes, the Danes don't seem to cry.

That's all right.

You didn't say the word cleaner.

Although if Andy had just asked his wife to do it, it would have been fine.

That is stunning.

That is so cool, Greg.

I love it.