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Terry, I have just a couple more questions for you. Here's a big one. Why should men listen to what you have to say?

Terry, I have just a couple more questions for you. Here's a big one. Why should men listen to what you have to say?

The thing is that I'm right. I mean, I love it. Yes. Terry, you've mentioned your wife, Belinda, who's also a family therapist. Brilliant, brilliant therapist, yes. Can I ask you, like, a thing I find really remarkable and frankly soothing about talking to you is you have an answer and usually like a phrase or you've written a book as an answer to so many of my questions.

The thing is that I'm right. I mean, I love it. Yes. Terry, you've mentioned your wife, Belinda, who's also a family therapist. Brilliant, brilliant therapist, yes. Can I ask you, like, a thing I find really remarkable and frankly soothing about talking to you is you have an answer and usually like a phrase or you've written a book as an answer to so many of my questions.

But of course, you know, no one has all of the answers and we are constantly working on ourselves. And I guess really to close, like, What is something that you are working on in yourself and in your marriage to Belinda?

But of course, you know, no one has all of the answers and we are constantly working on ourselves. And I guess really to close, like, What is something that you are working on in yourself and in your marriage to Belinda?

I don't do that. Stop it.

I don't do that. Stop it.

That is so sweet. Terry Real, thank you so much for this conversation. It gave me a lot to think about and I'm grateful.

That is so sweet. Terry Real, thank you so much for this conversation. It gave me a lot to think about and I'm grateful.

Terry Real, everyone. This episode was produced by Davis Land. It was edited by our executive producer, Jen Poyant. Production management by Christina Josa. The Modern Love theme music is by Dan Powell. Original music in this episode by Diane Wong, Pat McCusker, and Dan Powell. This episode was mixed by Daniel Ramirez, with studio support from Matty Macielo and Nick Pittman.

Terry Real, everyone. This episode was produced by Davis Land. It was edited by our executive producer, Jen Poyant. Production management by Christina Josa. The Modern Love theme music is by Dan Powell. Original music in this episode by Diane Wong, Pat McCusker, and Dan Powell. This episode was mixed by Daniel Ramirez, with studio support from Matty Macielo and Nick Pittman.

Special thanks to Paula Schumann, Lisa Tobin, Wendy Dorr, Emily Lang, Mahima Chablani, and Jeffrey Miranda. And to our video team, Brooke Minters, Felice Leone, Michael Cordero, and Sawyer Roque. The Modern Love column is edited by Daniel Jones. Mia Lee is the editor of Modern Love Projects.

Special thanks to Paula Schumann, Lisa Tobin, Wendy Dorr, Emily Lang, Mahima Chablani, and Jeffrey Miranda. And to our video team, Brooke Minters, Felice Leone, Michael Cordero, and Sawyer Roque. The Modern Love column is edited by Daniel Jones. Mia Lee is the editor of Modern Love Projects.

If you'd like to submit an essay or a tiny love story to The New York Times, we'll have the instructions in our show notes. I'm Anna Martin. Thanks for listening.

If you'd like to submit an essay or a tiny love story to The New York Times, we'll have the instructions in our show notes. I'm Anna Martin. Thanks for listening.

It is Joanna. Hi.

It is Joanna. Hi.

It is Joanna. Hi.

I don't have a real closet I can sit in in my house. I am under my daughter's loft bed that I've kind of makeshifted.