Anna

Whoa.

Wait, were you, was someone doing family therapy on you, your mom, and your dad, or were you doing family therapy on the three of you?

Wait, were you, was someone doing family therapy on you, your mom, and your dad, or were you doing family therapy on the three of you?

What are you seeing yourself doing?

What are you seeing yourself doing?

Watching yourself say those words now 30 years later,

Watching yourself say those words now 30 years later,

Do they have new meaning to you?

Do they have new meaning to you?

Can you tell me about that?

Can you tell me about that?

And you were doing that in this moment. You were facing the flames, or your father was facing the flames, or both of you were.

And you were doing that in this moment. You were facing the flames, or your father was facing the flames, or both of you were.

That's a remarkable scene you just shared, and I really appreciate you telling us about it. And it is remarkable. I mean, you say it's wise for 34. This is the beginning of your practice. Like, you were just starting to develop this approach to working with men. And I find it pretty remarkable that one of the first men

That's a remarkable scene you just shared, and I really appreciate you telling us about it. And it is remarkable. I mean, you say it's wise for 34. This is the beginning of your practice. Like, you were just starting to develop this approach to working with men. And I find it pretty remarkable that one of the first men

You practiced this on, or did this with, rather, was your own father that feels apt and healing and quite difficult.

You practiced this on, or did this with, rather, was your own father that feels apt and healing and quite difficult.

Can I ask you, Terry, as you developed and honed in on this idea relational approach to therapy and developed this focus. Is it right to call it a focus on men, a specialty? Is it right to call it a focus?

Can I ask you, Terry, as you developed and honed in on this idea relational approach to therapy and developed this focus. Is it right to call it a focus on men, a specialty? Is it right to call it a focus?

As you developed this focus on male psychology, you've talked a bit about the sort of larger therapeutic community, but how did your colleagues respond? I feel like it's just, you know, speaking for me, I feel like it's easy to look at Men, especially white men, and say comparatively this group of people has way more privilege, as you've noted, than other groups in society.