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And you were doing that in this moment. You were facing the flames, or your father was facing the flames, or both of you were.

And you were doing that in this moment. You were facing the flames, or your father was facing the flames, or both of you were.

That's a remarkable scene you just shared, and I really appreciate you telling us about it. And it is remarkable. I mean, you say it's wise for 34. This is the beginning of your practice. Like, you were just starting to develop this approach to working with men. And I find it pretty remarkable that one of the first men

That's a remarkable scene you just shared, and I really appreciate you telling us about it. And it is remarkable. I mean, you say it's wise for 34. This is the beginning of your practice. Like, you were just starting to develop this approach to working with men. And I find it pretty remarkable that one of the first men

You practiced this on, or did this with, rather, was your own father that feels apt and healing and quite difficult.

You practiced this on, or did this with, rather, was your own father that feels apt and healing and quite difficult.

Can I ask you, Terry, as you developed and honed in on this idea relational approach to therapy and developed this focus. Is it right to call it a focus on men, a specialty? Is it right to call it a focus?

Can I ask you, Terry, as you developed and honed in on this idea relational approach to therapy and developed this focus. Is it right to call it a focus on men, a specialty? Is it right to call it a focus?

As you developed this focus on male psychology, you've talked a bit about the sort of larger therapeutic community, but how did your colleagues respond? I feel like it's just, you know, speaking for me, I feel like it's easy to look at Men, especially white men, and say comparatively this group of people has way more privilege, as you've noted, than other groups in society.

As you developed this focus on male psychology, you've talked a bit about the sort of larger therapeutic community, but how did your colleagues respond? I feel like it's just, you know, speaking for me, I feel like it's easy to look at Men, especially white men, and say comparatively this group of people has way more privilege, as you've noted, than other groups in society.

So did anyone say like, you know, did you ever get pushback on that focus? That sort of, I don't know, privileging as it were of that experience?

So did anyone say like, you know, did you ever get pushback on that focus? That sort of, I don't know, privileging as it were of that experience?

No, I more so just mean, like, did anyone say, like, why focus on this group of people who already has so much power? Although what I'm hearing you say is because this group of people has so much power, that's why I'm interested in focusing on them.

No, I more so just mean, like, did anyone say, like, why focus on this group of people who already has so much power? Although what I'm hearing you say is because this group of people has so much power, that's why I'm interested in focusing on them.

Well, you're bringing up something that I wanted to ask you about, which is like, I'm really curious your perspective on what masculinity means right now. We talked about your early understandings of it, and this is a concept, certainly, I feel like. human society has wrestled with since maybe the dawn of human society.

Well, you're bringing up something that I wanted to ask you about, which is like, I'm really curious your perspective on what masculinity means right now. We talked about your early understandings of it, and this is a concept, certainly, I feel like. human society has wrestled with since maybe the dawn of human society.

It does feel to me, though, that we are at a kind of flashpoint culturally, at least in the United States, where men who hold on to traditional values of masculinity are lashing out. They're What are you seeing in the year 2025? What is going on with men? Big question, Terry, but I feel like you're the person to ask this, too.

It does feel to me, though, that we are at a kind of flashpoint culturally, at least in the United States, where men who hold on to traditional values of masculinity are lashing out. They're What are you seeing in the year 2025? What is going on with men? Big question, Terry, but I feel like you're the person to ask this, too.

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