Annabelle Crabb

Oh, God, the lowbrow.

So did he write it?

He was involved in the production for sure, yeah.

Yeah, because I seem to recall him getting an award at the like Australian, no, was he presenting an award or something?

He was at the Australian Film Industry Awards last time.

He must have been presenting something.

Funny things that happen.

I have been knocking over, you and I are both extremely lucky that we are going to be interviewing Michelle Obama when she's in Australia in May, which I'm just so, so thrilled about.

So I've been listening to her audio book, The Light We Carry, and also reading her book, The Look.

The Light We Carry, I mean, she is very impressive.

The Light We Carry feels like a really actually apt book for this time because

Because it's a lot about dealing with fear and uncertainty, which of course is, she wrote it at the end of COVID and so it was reflecting on how people felt during COVID.

But it feels like there's a few echoes now while we're in this period, you know, since the start of the year where it's just been a lot of uncertainty in foreign policy.

And just lots of her wisdom and points are quite relevant.

And then the look is about how she used fashion as a kind of form of soft diplomacy.

And I just love a coffee table book like that.

Looking at the pretty clothes, looking at the nice clothes and the nice hair.

I love it.

Because she's like so stylish.

Yeah.