Annaka Harris

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1,467 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard Oct 2022 last heard Apr 2025

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It's interesting, these types of questions are much less interesting to me than the other questions, and I think it's because I'm interested in the physics of things.
I'm somewhat interested, I'm definitely interested in ethical questions for human beings,
but I have spent very little time thinking about the implications for other types of intelligence.
I will say that I think the capacity for suffering
of the capacity for suffering of a conscious system goes up with memory and with a sense of self.
So if anesthesia only erased your memory and it didn't actually make you unconscious, you actually experienced it,
horrifically experienced some surgical procedure, but we could completely wipe out your memory of it.
As nightmarish as that scenario is, and I'm not suggesting we should ever do this, I would say if our only option were to erase your memory of it, that would be the more ethical thing to do than to have you maintain that memory because the suffering is then carried away.
across a longer distance through time.
Well, isn't that what ethics is all about?
It's about suffering.
I mean, I think, to me, ethics is all about suffering and well-being.
And I don't know what ethics is without that.
Yeah, so then it's a different question.
But I would say that memory increases suffering more.
Globally.
So that if any moment of suffering only existed for itself in the present moment, that is a lesser kind of suffering than a suffering that is drawn out over time through memory.
And so, yeah, I mean, in terms of AI...
if they're conscious and there's a sense of self and memory, which I actually think you need memory to have a sense of self.
Actually, sorry, I take that back.
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