Annaka Harris

And this is intrinsically positive for human beings.

And even just in our everyday lives and choices and what we do for work, feeling part of something larger than yourself is the way people describe spiritual experiences and the way many positive psychological states are framed.

And so there's that piece of it.

I think you can kind of go there under any worldview, really.

And the truth is, we want to find a truth out of that downward spiral and not...

a story that we have to tell ourselves that isn't true.

And the fact is we have these facts available to us,

that with the right framing and the right context, looking at the truth actually provides us with that psychological feeling we're searching for.

And I think that's important to point out.

Yes, I totally agree.

Yes.

But in this case,

I think there are

The concerns are legitimate concerns and I have them myself for how people respond.

I've actually had people tell me they had to stop reading my book halfway through because the parts on free will were so upsetting to them.

And this is something I think about a lot because that kind of breaks my heart.

I don't,

because I see this potential for these realizations bringing levels of wellbeing that many people don't have access to, I think it's important to talk about them in ways that override what can be an initial fear or kind of spooky quality that can come out of these realizations.

I believe that.

And I also think whatever the truth is, we have to find a way to maintain civil society and love and all the things that are important to us.