Annaka Harris

I mean, it's a little bit like, you know, I have two children and a lot of people with two children will say like when-

when you're preparing to have the second one and soon after you've had the second one, that having two is kind of like having three because you are nourishing and protecting and overseeing each individual life.

But then there's the sibling relationship, which is almost another thing.

Well, Sam and I interviewed him.

Yeah, sorry.

Most of the conversations I've had with him are private.

They're not public.

But we used to meet before the pandemic.

We were meeting about monthly to discuss ideas.

Yeah, I mean, I think we both think we might be wrong.

About it being fundamental.

I think we're both just, we both agree that this is a legitimate question to ask at this point in science.

Is consciousness fundamental?

And I really see it as a question and I think he does too.

Yes.

It's interesting because I, you know,

So I actually now have recorded three conversations with him for this project I'm working on.

And in every conversation we have, we seem to land on the same place.

But this last conversation we had, it seemed to be even more clear that

The semantics really get in the way.