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Anne Applebaum

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The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Everywhere I go, and last week I was in Germany, I was also in Brussels, and everywhere I go, it's the one thing people want to talk about, and they want an explanation of it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

It was very amusing. You know, it looks like Canada and Mexico won. You know, Justin Trudeau said, well, look, we're investing, I can't remember, one point some billion dollars into borders. It turns out he announced that two months ago. But Trump said, oh, great. You know, then I'll lift the tariffs or anyway, postpone them for a month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

It was very amusing. You know, it looks like Canada and Mexico won. You know, Justin Trudeau said, well, look, we're investing, I can't remember, one point some billion dollars into borders. It turns out he announced that two months ago. But Trump said, oh, great. You know, then I'll lift the tariffs or anyway, postpone them for a month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

It was very amusing. You know, it looks like Canada and Mexico won. You know, Justin Trudeau said, well, look, we're investing, I can't remember, one point some billion dollars into borders. It turns out he announced that two months ago. But Trump said, oh, great. You know, then I'll lift the tariffs or anyway, postpone them for a month.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Yeah, I mean, it makes me wonder whether, you know, the hard thing for people also to understand outside of the U.S. and also maybe inside the U.S. is like, what is real and what's performative? Like, was this big bluster about huge tariffs, was that some kind of game for the base?

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Yeah, I mean, it makes me wonder whether, you know, the hard thing for people also to understand outside of the U.S. and also maybe inside the U.S. is like, what is real and what's performative? Like, was this big bluster about huge tariffs, was that some kind of game for the base?

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Yeah, I mean, it makes me wonder whether, you know, the hard thing for people also to understand outside of the U.S. and also maybe inside the U.S. is like, what is real and what's performative? Like, was this big bluster about huge tariffs, was that some kind of game for the base?

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Also, I mean, I think some of the damage is already permanent. I mean, the Canadians, like maybe we're going to get over this and there won't be 25% tariffs, but we have now, you know, awoken the, you know, the sleeping nationalism of Canada.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Also, I mean, I think some of the damage is already permanent. I mean, the Canadians, like maybe we're going to get over this and there won't be 25% tariffs, but we have now, you know, awoken the, you know, the sleeping nationalism of Canada.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Also, I mean, I think some of the damage is already permanent. I mean, the Canadians, like maybe we're going to get over this and there won't be 25% tariffs, but we have now, you know, awoken the, you know, the sleeping nationalism of Canada.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

But, you know, there's like buy Canadian signs now all over Canadian shops and, you know, lots of premiers, you know, they're sort of regional governors are banning U.S. products and saying we won't do deals with U.S. companies. So, you know, I think there will be real effects. And I think this is going to โ€“ people will remember this for a long time. I mean, so there's a โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

But, you know, there's like buy Canadian signs now all over Canadian shops and, you know, lots of premiers, you know, they're sort of regional governors are banning U.S. products and saying we won't do deals with U.S. companies. So, you know, I think there will be real effects. And I think this is going to โ€“ people will remember this for a long time. I mean, so there's a โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

But, you know, there's like buy Canadian signs now all over Canadian shops and, you know, lots of premiers, you know, they're sort of regional governors are banning U.S. products and saying we won't do deals with U.S. companies. So, you know, I think there will be real effects. And I think this is going to โ€“ people will remember this for a long time. I mean, so there's a โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Even if it was just a performance and it was just like to look really tough and then withdraw 24 hours later, even if I don't maybe it won't turn out like that. But even so, there will be damage. And even so, there's going to be damage in Europe as well. You know, the U.S. is now like the U.S. has been the most predictable factor in world politics for 50 years. You know, Republican, Democrat.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Even if it was just a performance and it was just like to look really tough and then withdraw 24 hours later, even if I don't maybe it won't turn out like that. But even so, there will be damage. And even so, there's going to be damage in Europe as well. You know, the U.S. is now like the U.S. has been the most predictable factor in world politics for 50 years. You know, Republican, Democrat.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

Even if it was just a performance and it was just like to look really tough and then withdraw 24 hours later, even if I don't maybe it won't turn out like that. But even so, there will be damage. And even so, there's going to be damage in Europe as well. You know, the U.S. is now like the U.S. has been the most predictable factor in world politics for 50 years. You know, Republican, Democrat.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

I mean, sometimes they did weird things or they said things people didn't like or whatever. But now it's just a complete black hole. Like, do we trust them? Do we not trust them? Are they on our side? Are they our enemies? You know, do they wish us well? Are they trying to undermine us? Really, people just don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

I mean, sometimes they did weird things or they said things people didn't like or whatever. But now it's just a complete black hole. Like, do we trust them? Do we not trust them? Are they on our side? Are they our enemies? You know, do they wish us well? Are they trying to undermine us? Really, people just don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

I mean, sometimes they did weird things or they said things people didn't like or whatever. But now it's just a complete black hole. Like, do we trust them? Do we not trust them? Are they on our side? Are they our enemies? You know, do they wish us well? Are they trying to undermine us? Really, people just don't know.

The Bulwark Podcast
Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

You would have to ask whether it's possible to share intelligence with the United States, yes.