Anne Applebaum
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And it's true.
You could imagine that kind of future.
Except that South Korea has American troops.
You know, South Korea has defense agreements.
You know, South Korea is defensible.
And Americans have been willing to defend it for many decades, or at least that's been the assumption of the North Koreans.
And you need something like that in Ukraine to make it viable.
And it just doesn't seem like Witkoff or Jared Kushner or whoever is doing this negotiation now has come up with a version, something that would give the Ukrainians that sense of stability.
So this is why people are talking about it as a kind of surrender dog.
So we give away land and in exchange for what?
For, you know, certainty that the Russians are going to invade again.
The problem with this document, then, as I've already said, there are all these weird clauses about U.S.-Russian deals that are going to be done and money that the U.S.
is supposedly going to spend in Russia.
And it looks from the outside like it's a U.S.-Russia deal that just...
isn't worried about the future of Ukraine or the future of Europe because, you know, a fallen Ukraine or a dysfunctional Ukraine has huge impact on security in Poland and Germany, all across the European continent.
And it just feels like the Trump administration doesn't care.
So the Ukrainians are genuinely prepared to keep fighting.
Their losses are far lower than the Russian losses.
They know that they need outside support.
And most of the nations of Europe, certainly those closest to Ukraine, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe,