Anne Applebaum

One of the few tools that we have is Voice of America and those other properties, which are designed at least to put a... It's not so much... They're not meant to be American propaganda. I mean, I'm sure sometimes that's what they are, but mainly they're designed to be... Outlets that build trust because they report things that are true.

They're meant to contradict the Russian and Chinese messaging. You know, they're meant to build a different set of arguments, you know, mostly, as I said, in third countries. I mean, they're most important in places where the U.S. and the democratic world are competing directly with the authoritarian world in narratives and in arguments.

They're meant to contradict the Russian and Chinese messaging. You know, they're meant to build a different set of arguments, you know, mostly, as I said, in third countries. I mean, they're most important in places where the U.S. and the democratic world are competing directly with the authoritarian world in narratives and in arguments.

They're meant to contradict the Russian and Chinese messaging. You know, they're meant to build a different set of arguments, you know, mostly, as I said, in third countries. I mean, they're most important in places where the U.S. and the democratic world are competing directly with the authoritarian world in narratives and in arguments.

The idea that Carrie Lake would be the head of Voice of America is absurd on many levels. I mean, she's... She has no journalism experience. She has no public diplomacy experience. She's a liar.

The idea that Carrie Lake would be the head of Voice of America is absurd on many levels. I mean, she's... She has no journalism experience. She has no public diplomacy experience. She's a liar.

The idea that Carrie Lake would be the head of Voice of America is absurd on many levels. I mean, she's... She has no journalism experience. She has no public diplomacy experience. She's a liar.

All right. Okay. Well, she hasn't run, as far as I know, she hasn't run a large international media institution. And of course, she's a liar. I mean, she's somebody who supported a false narrative about multiple elections, actually, you know, Trump's elections, her own elections. And actually, her anti-election sort of campaigns or her election denial campaigns in Arizona.

All right. Okay. Well, she hasn't run, as far as I know, she hasn't run a large international media institution. And of course, she's a liar. I mean, she's somebody who supported a false narrative about multiple elections, actually, you know, Trump's elections, her own elections. And actually, her anti-election sort of campaigns or her election denial campaigns in Arizona.

All right. Okay. Well, she hasn't run, as far as I know, she hasn't run a large international media institution. And of course, she's a liar. I mean, she's somebody who supported a false narrative about multiple elections, actually, you know, Trump's elections, her own elections. And actually, her anti-election sort of campaigns or her election denial campaigns in Arizona.

had a big effect, I think, on the culture of Arizona. I mean, I did a podcast last summer and we interviewed an Arizona election official whose life was essentially ruined. I mean, he was just a guy who said, you know, Trump didn't win the election and he was harassed and doxxed and his family was attacked and, you know, the...

had a big effect, I think, on the culture of Arizona. I mean, I did a podcast last summer and we interviewed an Arizona election official whose life was essentially ruined. I mean, he was just a guy who said, you know, Trump didn't win the election and he was harassed and doxxed and his family was attacked and, you know, the...

had a big effect, I think, on the culture of Arizona. I mean, I did a podcast last summer and we interviewed an Arizona election official whose life was essentially ruined. I mean, he was just a guy who said, you know, Trump didn't win the election and he was harassed and doxxed and his family was attacked and, you know, the...

You can imagine what people go through if you're a Maricopa County election official and you live in a world in which Carrie Lake dominates. So the idea that she would be somehow the spokesman for American values around the world and, you know, fighting Chinese authoritarian propaganda in Africa is ludicrous. I mean, on top of that, on top of that, last year, the Senate confirmed that.

You can imagine what people go through if you're a Maricopa County election official and you live in a world in which Carrie Lake dominates. So the idea that she would be somehow the spokesman for American values around the world and, you know, fighting Chinese authoritarian propaganda in Africa is ludicrous. I mean, on top of that, on top of that, last year, the Senate confirmed that.

You can imagine what people go through if you're a Maricopa County election official and you live in a world in which Carrie Lake dominates. So the idea that she would be somehow the spokesman for American values around the world and, you know, fighting Chinese authoritarian propaganda in Africa is ludicrous. I mean, on top of that, on top of that, last year, the Senate confirmed that.

a board of, there's an institution that governs all of these media properties. And there's a board. I know it's half Democrat, half Republican by law.

a board of, there's an institution that governs all of these media properties. And there's a board. I know it's half Democrat, half Republican by law.

a board of, there's an institution that governs all of these media properties. And there's a board. I know it's half Democrat, half Republican by law.

It's three and three. And there's a, I think the Secretary of State is the fourth vote on it. The Senate confirmed that board. And actually that board is what decides who will be the next leader of these various institutions. VOA has a current leader.