Anne Applebaum

And it looks from the outside like it's a U.S.-Russia deal that just...

isn't worried about the future of Ukraine or the future of Europe because, you know, a fallen Ukraine or a dysfunctional Ukraine has huge impact on security in Poland and Germany, all across the European continent.

And it just feels like the Trump administration doesn't care.

So the Ukrainians are genuinely prepared to keep fighting.

Their losses are far lower than the Russian losses.

They know that they need outside support.

And most of the nations of Europe, certainly those closest to Ukraine, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe,

Germany as well, have, you know, are continually stepping up, offering not just weapons, but money.

Remember, the Ukraine has its own defense industry.

It makes its own drones now, including these long-range drones that can hit Russian targets and Russian refineries and so on.

And I was there in September, and at that moment, there was still a lot of confidence.

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Pretty sure they were going to make it through the winter.

They didn't expect the Russians to stop fighting anytime soon.

I mean, there's been a little bit of the huge pressure from Russian airstrikes in the last month or two, I think, has been... And this is on Ukrainian cities.

This has nothing to do with the front line.

This is the people, you know, bombs hitting Kiev, missiles hitting...

residential apartment buildings and so on.

I think that's been pretty debilitating.

But they don't, you know, you have to remember that if you're Ukrainian, you don't really see an option.