Anne Applebaum
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Right now, we have a Slovak government which is seeking to go down a similar road. And we had in the past, between 2015 and 2023, a Polish government that also, again, whose leaders openly admired Orban. They talked about building Budapest and Warsaw and sought really to take a similar path.
Right now, we have a Slovak government which is seeking to go down a similar road. And we had in the past, between 2015 and 2023, a Polish government that also, again, whose leaders openly admired Orban. They talked about building Budapest and Warsaw and sought really to take a similar path.
Right now, we have a Slovak government which is seeking to go down a similar road. And we had in the past, between 2015 and 2023, a Polish government that also, again, whose leaders openly admired Orban. They talked about building Budapest and Warsaw and sought really to take a similar path.
The Trump administration has absolutely taken actions from the Orban playbook. We know, for example, Project 2025, which was a kind of blueprint written by the think tank, the Heritage Foundation, for some of what's happening now for the takeover of institutions of the state. We know that was heavily influenced by Hungarians. We know that Viktor Orban frequently met Trump during the campaign.
The Trump administration has absolutely taken actions from the Orban playbook. We know, for example, Project 2025, which was a kind of blueprint written by the think tank, the Heritage Foundation, for some of what's happening now for the takeover of institutions of the state. We know that was heavily influenced by Hungarians. We know that Viktor Orban frequently met Trump during the campaign.
The Trump administration has absolutely taken actions from the Orban playbook. We know, for example, Project 2025, which was a kind of blueprint written by the think tank, the Heritage Foundation, for some of what's happening now for the takeover of institutions of the state. We know that was heavily influenced by Hungarians. We know that Viktor Orban frequently met Trump during the campaign.
Some of his advisors and ministers have also met with people in the Trump administration around it. Tucker Carlson has extensive long relations with the Hungarian government and has spoken in Budapest. And he's an influential figure in the Trump administration too. So yeah, we know that Hungary is a kind of model for many people.
Some of his advisors and ministers have also met with people in the Trump administration around it. Tucker Carlson has extensive long relations with the Hungarian government and has spoken in Budapest. And he's an influential figure in the Trump administration too. So yeah, we know that Hungary is a kind of model for many people.
Some of his advisors and ministers have also met with people in the Trump administration around it. Tucker Carlson has extensive long relations with the Hungarian government and has spoken in Budapest. And he's an influential figure in the Trump administration too. So yeah, we know that Hungary is a kind of model for many people.
I mean, I would draw your attention to one way in which Hungary is a model. Hungary has also put an enormous amount of pressure on universities, cutting their budgets, forcing them to eliminate certain kinds of programs. I think anything with the word gender in it had to be eliminated.
I mean, I would draw your attention to one way in which Hungary is a model. Hungary has also put an enormous amount of pressure on universities, cutting their budgets, forcing them to eliminate certain kinds of programs. I think anything with the word gender in it had to be eliminated.
I mean, I would draw your attention to one way in which Hungary is a model. Hungary has also put an enormous amount of pressure on universities, cutting their budgets, forcing them to eliminate certain kinds of programs. I think anything with the word gender in it had to be eliminated.
Gender studies or women's studies had to be taken out of Hungarian curriculums if you wanted to have any state money. And right now, many U.S. universities are afraid that that same kind of pressure will be applied on them, too. So you can see that many things that were done in Hungary can and will be imitated in the United States.
Gender studies or women's studies had to be taken out of Hungarian curriculums if you wanted to have any state money. And right now, many U.S. universities are afraid that that same kind of pressure will be applied on them, too. So you can see that many things that were done in Hungary can and will be imitated in the United States.
Gender studies or women's studies had to be taken out of Hungarian curriculums if you wanted to have any state money. And right now, many U.S. universities are afraid that that same kind of pressure will be applied on them, too. So you can see that many things that were done in Hungary can and will be imitated in the United States.
One of the strange thing is, is there was I didn't know what he's talking about. I mean, there is no woke movement in Hungary. I mean, I was wondering about that. No, no, no. He he borrowed the American culture war and used it in Hungary as a as a way of attacking his enemies. It was one of the things that he did that Hungarians found very strange, but seems to have worked.
One of the strange thing is, is there was I didn't know what he's talking about. I mean, there is no woke movement in Hungary. I mean, I was wondering about that. No, no, no. He he borrowed the American culture war and used it in Hungary as a as a way of attacking his enemies. It was one of the things that he did that Hungarians found very strange, but seems to have worked.
One of the strange thing is, is there was I didn't know what he's talking about. I mean, there is no woke movement in Hungary. I mean, I was wondering about that. No, no, no. He he borrowed the American culture war and used it in Hungary as a as a way of attacking his enemies. It was one of the things that he did that Hungarians found very strange, but seems to have worked.
You know, he also ran an anti-immigrant campaign. even though Hungary has very, very few immigrants. So the immigrants were mostly fictitious. I mean, at least in the United States, we have real immigrants. And so there's a real problem, and you can talk about realistically how to solve it. In Hungary, it was mostly fiction. But he used that language.
You know, he also ran an anti-immigrant campaign. even though Hungary has very, very few immigrants. So the immigrants were mostly fictitious. I mean, at least in the United States, we have real immigrants. And so there's a real problem, and you can talk about realistically how to solve it. In Hungary, it was mostly fiction. But he used that language.