Anne Applebaum
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I mean, you can find Chinese and Russian writers and politicians in that period saying exactly the same thing. But for a variety of reasons, this idea has fallen apart and they don't believe that anymore. They believe that they are in a war of ideas against us and they need to win.
I mean, you can find Chinese and Russian writers and politicians in that period saying exactly the same thing. But for a variety of reasons, this idea has fallen apart and they don't believe that anymore. They believe that they are in a war of ideas against us and they need to win.
It's not. I mean, we not all of us, but some democratic world politicians understand both the economic challenge and the ideological threat that comes from the autocratic world. And they have invested also in democracy. seeking to fight their ideas and to fight their language and to fight the autocratic narrative. This is a pretty sophisticated battle.
It's not. I mean, we not all of us, but some democratic world politicians understand both the economic challenge and the ideological threat that comes from the autocratic world. And they have invested also in democracy. seeking to fight their ideas and to fight their language and to fight the autocratic narrative. This is a pretty sophisticated battle.
It's not. I mean, we not all of us, but some democratic world politicians understand both the economic challenge and the ideological threat that comes from the autocratic world. And they have invested also in democracy. seeking to fight their ideas and to fight their language and to fight the autocratic narrative. This is a pretty sophisticated battle.
So there is something like an autocratic narrative that the autocratic world has been building for a long time. And you'll recognize it. It's the idea that autocracies are stable and safe. And democracies are weak and divided and autocracies defend traditional values and democracies are degenerate. And they've worked on that and they've built it.
So there is something like an autocratic narrative that the autocratic world has been building for a long time. And you'll recognize it. It's the idea that autocracies are stable and safe. And democracies are weak and divided and autocracies defend traditional values and democracies are degenerate. And they've worked on that and they've built it.
So there is something like an autocratic narrative that the autocratic world has been building for a long time. And you'll recognize it. It's the idea that autocracies are stable and safe. And democracies are weak and divided and autocracies defend traditional values and democracies are degenerate. And they've worked on that and they've built it.
And there are people in the democratic world who have tried to fight back by arguing that democracy is better and so on. I don't think we're as engaged. We haven't invested the kind of money we are right now. As we're having this conversation, we're beginning to dismantle some of the institutions that have been used to fight that battle.
And there are people in the democratic world who have tried to fight back by arguing that democracy is better and so on. I don't think we're as engaged. We haven't invested the kind of money we are right now. As we're having this conversation, we're beginning to dismantle some of the institutions that have been used to fight that battle.
And there are people in the democratic world who have tried to fight back by arguing that democracy is better and so on. I don't think we're as engaged. We haven't invested the kind of money we are right now. As we're having this conversation, we're beginning to dismantle some of the institutions that have been used to fight that battle.
USAID, for example, the American aid agency that's being dismantled this week was one of them. So maybe we're not going to continue fighting it. But yeah, we have been fighting it for a long time. And I think we should have been doing it more.
USAID, for example, the American aid agency that's being dismantled this week was one of them. So maybe we're not going to continue fighting it. But yeah, we have been fighting it for a long time. And I think we should have been doing it more.
USAID, for example, the American aid agency that's being dismantled this week was one of them. So maybe we're not going to continue fighting it. But yeah, we have been fighting it for a long time. And I think we should have been doing it more.
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