Anne-Marie Green

Welcome back to Postmortem. I'm your host, Anne-Marie Green. And today we are discussing the case of Patricia Spivey, whose husband, Renard, is a former sheriff's deputy. He was also known for playing a bailiff on TV. He was charged in 2019 with murdering Patricia in the home that they built together. So joining me now is CBS News correspondent Natalie Morales and 48 Hours producer Asena Bashak.

Welcome back to Postmortem. I'm your host, Anne-Marie Green. And today we are discussing the case of Patricia Spivey, whose husband, Renard, is a former sheriff's deputy. He was also known for playing a bailiff on TV. He was charged in 2019 with murdering Patricia in the home that they built together. So joining me now is CBS News correspondent Natalie Morales and 48 Hours producer Asena Bashak.

Welcome. Thank you, Anne-Marie. Good to be with you. Thanks for having us. So I should point out to everyone that we're actually recording this at a pretty high stress time. For you, Natalie, there are several wildfires burning out of control in the Los Angeles area and not too far from where you are, Natalie.

Welcome. Thank you, Anne-Marie. Good to be with you. Thanks for having us. So I should point out to everyone that we're actually recording this at a pretty high stress time. For you, Natalie, there are several wildfires burning out of control in the Los Angeles area and not too far from where you are, Natalie.

Welcome. Thank you, Anne-Marie. Good to be with you. Thanks for having us. So I should point out to everyone that we're actually recording this at a pretty high stress time. For you, Natalie, there are several wildfires burning out of control in the Los Angeles area and not too far from where you are, Natalie.

Well, we're glad you're safe. And let's cross our fingers that this gets under control and everyone else remains safe as well. Thank you. Just a reminder for everyone, you know, I say this every time. If you have not watched the episode yet, this episode of 48 Hours, you can find the full audio version of it just below this episode in your podcast feed.

Well, we're glad you're safe. And let's cross our fingers that this gets under control and everyone else remains safe as well. Thank you. Just a reminder for everyone, you know, I say this every time. If you have not watched the episode yet, this episode of 48 Hours, you can find the full audio version of it just below this episode in your podcast feed.

Well, we're glad you're safe. And let's cross our fingers that this gets under control and everyone else remains safe as well. Thank you. Just a reminder for everyone, you know, I say this every time. If you have not watched the episode yet, this episode of 48 Hours, you can find the full audio version of it just below this episode in your podcast feed.

So go take a listen to it and then come on back and we will talk. All right. What I think was really interesting about this episode is just how much security video you had from inside the home. I've always wondered who these people are that just run security cameras in their home all the time, in the kitchen of all places.

So go take a listen to it and then come on back and we will talk. All right. What I think was really interesting about this episode is just how much security video you had from inside the home. I've always wondered who these people are that just run security cameras in their home all the time, in the kitchen of all places.

So go take a listen to it and then come on back and we will talk. All right. What I think was really interesting about this episode is just how much security video you had from inside the home. I've always wondered who these people are that just run security cameras in their home all the time, in the kitchen of all places.

So because of this, we can actually hear the shooting, but we don't see the shooting. Patricia's family, they believe that she was murdered, but Renard said that it was an accident. Was it a challenge for you all to make sure that you presented both sides of the story?

So because of this, we can actually hear the shooting, but we don't see the shooting. Patricia's family, they believe that she was murdered, but Renard said that it was an accident. Was it a challenge for you all to make sure that you presented both sides of the story?

So because of this, we can actually hear the shooting, but we don't see the shooting. Patricia's family, they believe that she was murdered, but Renard said that it was an accident. Was it a challenge for you all to make sure that you presented both sides of the story?

And so you guys really studied the surveillance footage really closely. I know what sort of struck me, which has nothing necessarily to do with the case, was just how ordinary it seemed like the hours leading up to this were, you know, going to the fridge, grabbing a drink. It's like very ordinary. What was unusual about the footage leading up to the shooting?

And so you guys really studied the surveillance footage really closely. I know what sort of struck me, which has nothing necessarily to do with the case, was just how ordinary it seemed like the hours leading up to this were, you know, going to the fridge, grabbing a drink. It's like very ordinary. What was unusual about the footage leading up to the shooting?

And so you guys really studied the surveillance footage really closely. I know what sort of struck me, which has nothing necessarily to do with the case, was just how ordinary it seemed like the hours leading up to this were, you know, going to the fridge, grabbing a drink. It's like very ordinary. What was unusual about the footage leading up to the shooting?

But this is one of my the challenge that I had with his story is that it just seemed like there wasn't a lot of time. We see him go out to the kitchen to say goodnight to her. Then he according to him, he's sort of rebuffed and he goes back in and he says he waited for her to fall asleep. It just didn't seem like enough time had gone by.

But this is one of my the challenge that I had with his story is that it just seemed like there wasn't a lot of time. We see him go out to the kitchen to say goodnight to her. Then he according to him, he's sort of rebuffed and he goes back in and he says he waited for her to fall asleep. It just didn't seem like enough time had gone by.

But this is one of my the challenge that I had with his story is that it just seemed like there wasn't a lot of time. We see him go out to the kitchen to say goodnight to her. Then he according to him, he's sort of rebuffed and he goes back in and he says he waited for her to fall asleep. It just didn't seem like enough time had gone by.