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Right. And I think it was a good opportunity for her because because her name is being bounced around, at least by the co-workers, to say this is what I remember. And I don't remember anything happening.

The daycare where Melissa and Brenda worked was actually shut down by state authorities. This is shortly after Benjamin's death. I'm wondering, were there any further investigations? Did anyone look into whether or not there had been other problems at this daycare?

The daycare where Melissa and Brenda worked was actually shut down by state authorities. This is shortly after Benjamin's death. I'm wondering, were there any further investigations? Did anyone look into whether or not there had been other problems at this daycare?

The daycare where Melissa and Brenda worked was actually shut down by state authorities. This is shortly after Benjamin's death. I'm wondering, were there any further investigations? Did anyone look into whether or not there had been other problems at this daycare?

So there's that. Do we know ultimately why it was shut down?

So there's that. Do we know ultimately why it was shut down?

So there's that. Do we know ultimately why it was shut down?

The latest hour is 48, fourth installment on Melissa's case. And I know that your team will continue to follow with all kinds of updates, but where are we now in this case? What are the next steps?

The latest hour is 48, fourth installment on Melissa's case. And I know that your team will continue to follow with all kinds of updates, but where are we now in this case? What are the next steps?

The latest hour is 48, fourth installment on Melissa's case. And I know that your team will continue to follow with all kinds of updates, but where are we now in this case? What are the next steps?

Absolutely. I thought it was really important to show Benjamin's family. This was devastating for everyone that loved him. And you also obviously talked to Melissa's parents, and they have worked tirelessly to free their daughter. And they actually have her bedroom exactly the same way that it was. What was it like speaking to them and visiting that bedroom?

Absolutely. I thought it was really important to show Benjamin's family. This was devastating for everyone that loved him. And you also obviously talked to Melissa's parents, and they have worked tirelessly to free their daughter. And they actually have her bedroom exactly the same way that it was. What was it like speaking to them and visiting that bedroom?

Absolutely. I thought it was really important to show Benjamin's family. This was devastating for everyone that loved him. And you also obviously talked to Melissa's parents, and they have worked tirelessly to free their daughter. And they actually have her bedroom exactly the same way that it was. What was it like speaking to them and visiting that bedroom?

Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's a great hour and I know you guys are going to stay on this case. I'm curious to see how things continue to develop and unfold as this case moves forward. So Stephanie, Erin, thank you very much.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's a great hour and I know you guys are going to stay on this case. I'm curious to see how things continue to develop and unfold as this case moves forward. So Stephanie, Erin, thank you very much.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's a great hour and I know you guys are going to stay on this case. I'm curious to see how things continue to develop and unfold as this case moves forward. So Stephanie, Erin, thank you very much.

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Welcome back to Postmortem. I'm your host, Anne-Marie Green. And today we are discussing the case of Patricia Spivey, whose husband, Renard, is a former sheriff's deputy. He was also known for playing a bailiff on TV. He was charged in 2019 with murdering Patricia in the home that they built together. So joining me now is CBS News correspondent Natalie Morales and 48 Hours producer Asena Bashak.