Anne-Marie Green

Absolutely. The other thing that kind of was really brought home to me by seeing all these people is the amount of time that has passed and like who Katina could have been, you know, because like here they are. They're all grown up. They've lived whole lives, whole careers. Like, wow, who would she have been if she had been allowed to sort of live these next four decades, you know?

Absolutely. The other thing that kind of was really brought home to me by seeing all these people is the amount of time that has passed and like who Katina could have been, you know, because like here they are. They're all grown up. They've lived whole lives, whole careers. Like, wow, who would she have been if she had been allowed to sort of live these next four decades, you know?

Absolutely. The other thing that kind of was really brought home to me by seeing all these people is the amount of time that has passed and like who Katina could have been, you know, because like here they are. They're all grown up. They've lived whole lives, whole careers. Like, wow, who would she have been if she had been allowed to sort of live these next four decades, you know?

Indeed. So this is not the first time that 48 Hours has actually covered this case. And I love it when we can kind of go into the archives. The first report on the case was done in 1990 by correspondent Bernard Goldberg. Yes, it was.

Indeed. So this is not the first time that 48 Hours has actually covered this case. And I love it when we can kind of go into the archives. The first report on the case was done in 1990 by correspondent Bernard Goldberg. Yes, it was.

Indeed. So this is not the first time that 48 Hours has actually covered this case. And I love it when we can kind of go into the archives. The first report on the case was done in 1990 by correspondent Bernard Goldberg. Yes, it was.

Yeah, I mean, he's sort of talking very comfortably.

Yeah, I mean, he's sort of talking very comfortably.

Yeah, I mean, he's sort of talking very comfortably.

So then why did 48 Hours decide to update viewers on this case? Was it because there was another parole hearing coming up? I mean, I guess who would have thought that there would have been so many parole hearings between then and now? Right.

So then why did 48 Hours decide to update viewers on this case? Was it because there was another parole hearing coming up? I mean, I guess who would have thought that there would have been so many parole hearings between then and now? Right.

So then why did 48 Hours decide to update viewers on this case? Was it because there was another parole hearing coming up? I mean, I guess who would have thought that there would have been so many parole hearings between then and now? Right.

I thought it was really good that you explored that idea. You know, asking, listen, like, what is justice? What is the system for? Are you sure that you're in the pursuit of justice? Or is this just like a personal thing? Because, you know, it's hard to get over someone taking someone you loved. I thought you, the way you explored it was just was delicate but direct.

I thought it was really good that you explored that idea. You know, asking, listen, like, what is justice? What is the system for? Are you sure that you're in the pursuit of justice? Or is this just like a personal thing? Because, you know, it's hard to get over someone taking someone you loved. I thought you, the way you explored it was just was delicate but direct.

I thought it was really good that you explored that idea. You know, asking, listen, like, what is justice? What is the system for? Are you sure that you're in the pursuit of justice? Or is this just like a personal thing? Because, you know, it's hard to get over someone taking someone you loved. I thought you, the way you explored it was just was delicate but direct.

I didn't understand that until I worked on this story. We're going to dig in a little bit more to that, but I just want to ask you this. Something about the court case, which was really surprising to me. I know it was back in 1980, but Katina's two sisters, Regina and Nina, they testified in Burns's trial. But Nina was just 14 years old and she had to testify without her parents in the courtroom.

I didn't understand that until I worked on this story. We're going to dig in a little bit more to that, but I just want to ask you this. Something about the court case, which was really surprising to me. I know it was back in 1980, but Katina's two sisters, Regina and Nina, they testified in Burns's trial. But Nina was just 14 years old and she had to testify without her parents in the courtroom.

I didn't understand that until I worked on this story. We're going to dig in a little bit more to that, but I just want to ask you this. Something about the court case, which was really surprising to me. I know it was back in 1980, but Katina's two sisters, Regina and Nina, they testified in Burns's trial. But Nina was just 14 years old and she had to testify without her parents in the courtroom.

They were not allowed. Why? She was a minor.

They were not allowed. Why? She was a minor.