Anne-Marie Green

Mm-hmm. I want to talk a little bit about filming the day of that most recent parole hearing. This is in 2025. There's this really sort of tender moment with you, Erin, that you're driving in the backseat. You're with Harriet, who's Katina's mom, and you sort of reach out to touch her hand. Can you tell me about what was happening in that moment?

But it really lets you know that it never gets easier. You would think by 13, you would, I don't know, know exactly what to expect, know exactly what you want the board members to hear. But it's still like this emotional upheaval to get to go there again. Yes, this was, she said, as tough almost as the first one. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

But it really lets you know that it never gets easier. You would think by 13, you would, I don't know, know exactly what to expect, know exactly what you want the board members to hear. But it's still like this emotional upheaval to get to go there again. Yes, this was, she said, as tough almost as the first one. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

But it really lets you know that it never gets easier. You would think by 13, you would, I don't know, know exactly what to expect, know exactly what you want the board members to hear. But it's still like this emotional upheaval to get to go there again. Yes, this was, she said, as tough almost as the first one. Yeah. Wow. Wow.

In fact, you sat with Harriet and the family in the conference room and watched the parole hearing. 48 hours couldn't bring cameras in there. So it was just kind of you and there with the family. But tell me what that was like.

In fact, you sat with Harriet and the family in the conference room and watched the parole hearing. 48 hours couldn't bring cameras in there. So it was just kind of you and there with the family. But tell me what that was like.

In fact, you sat with Harriet and the family in the conference room and watched the parole hearing. 48 hours couldn't bring cameras in there. So it was just kind of you and there with the family. But tell me what that was like.

Yeah. You know, just as an aside, this is a family who opened their doors and their heart to a young man and like that level of betrayal to welcome him into your home. Because Katina's father sort of took him a little bit under his wing, right? Oh my gosh, yes.

Yeah. You know, just as an aside, this is a family who opened their doors and their heart to a young man and like that level of betrayal to welcome him into your home. Because Katina's father sort of took him a little bit under his wing, right? Oh my gosh, yes.

Yeah. You know, just as an aside, this is a family who opened their doors and their heart to a young man and like that level of betrayal to welcome him into your home. Because Katina's father sort of took him a little bit under his wing, right? Oh my gosh, yes.

Right. And you had mentioned a little bit earlier that like that it kind of changed the trajectory of their lives in certain ways.

Right. And you had mentioned a little bit earlier that like that it kind of changed the trajectory of their lives in certain ways.

Right. And you had mentioned a little bit earlier that like that it kind of changed the trajectory of their lives in certain ways.

Absolutely. You know, Erin, like every once in a while, people ask me, isn't it sort of depressing to work on these sort of stories? And I always say, no, because for every story, there's heroes, right? And here you have an entire family that are heroic in their efforts to make sure that no one else becomes a victim the way that their loved one became, you know?

Absolutely. You know, Erin, like every once in a while, people ask me, isn't it sort of depressing to work on these sort of stories? And I always say, no, because for every story, there's heroes, right? And here you have an entire family that are heroic in their efforts to make sure that no one else becomes a victim the way that their loved one became, you know?

Absolutely. You know, Erin, like every once in a while, people ask me, isn't it sort of depressing to work on these sort of stories? And I always say, no, because for every story, there's heroes, right? And here you have an entire family that are heroic in their efforts to make sure that no one else becomes a victim the way that their loved one became, you know?

I love that. I absolutely love that. Erin, another great hour. It was really an interesting way to sort of delve into the story. We don't talk enough about the parole system, what's great about it, but also what's really challenging about it, especially for the families of the victims. So thank you so much. Thank you, Anne-Marie. I'll be back, as you know. I know you will.

I love that. I absolutely love that. Erin, another great hour. It was really an interesting way to sort of delve into the story. We don't talk enough about the parole system, what's great about it, but also what's really challenging about it, especially for the families of the victims. So thank you so much. Thank you, Anne-Marie. I'll be back, as you know. I know you will.

I love that. I absolutely love that. Erin, another great hour. It was really an interesting way to sort of delve into the story. We don't talk enough about the parole system, what's great about it, but also what's really challenging about it, especially for the families of the victims. So thank you so much. Thank you, Anne-Marie. I'll be back, as you know. I know you will.

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