Anneke Lucas

I was gone.

But, of course, we were off school.

But I was gone all of July.

I spent in the United States.

And then all of August of 72, when I was nine years old, I spent in Germany.

No.

No, no, no.

We're talking 72.

Oh, 72.

So I was nine years old.

I was at home, and I just wasn't there all summer.

Because I was in the network.

I was being first trained by Dave Rockefeller in different homes, but he put me in different places as well in the United States.

And then for the month of August, I spent in Heidelberg in that villa in the basement, mostly in the basement of this villa where that training was happening.

Jeez.

It's wonderful because the healing, the recovery of really going to my own pain and shame and guilt and grief of everything, you know, when something comes up, because I never go looking for anything, but it does come up.

So it was coming in flashbacks in the beginning.

And then when I started working with this therapist who was present, who could handle it, really, she didn't know anything about this, but she was open-minded.

So once we started really getting into the horrific stuff, there's so much pain and grief.

It's so heavy.