Anneke Lucas

And I really spent more than 20 years

That I wouldn't wish on anyone.

So much pain, so much grief, so much suffering, really, that I went through from all the feelings that would be repressed so that you can survive, they were all coming up.

So it was all the pain and grief and the betrayals.

Yeah.

All the... So much, so many tears and...

Absolutely.

It stays in your body.

But the healing then, the integration is really magical because the neural integration, it's like spiritual growth also.

Whatever was repressed, so it's out in your subconscious now, but it's still in your body.

So whatever gets integrated...

You then gain wisdom, actually.

You gain insights.

I would know myself better.

I would understand something that I wanted to know.

And then I would also understand it for other people.

And that's what happens in these sessions, that I know exactly where somebody is because most of the time I've been there.

Now, I have to say I work with people whose experiences were more extreme than mine.

Yeah, because my experience was relatively short.

Yeah.