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Annie Jacobsen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2318 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

In my researching Third Reich weapons for Operation Paperclip because, of course, we got a lot of those scientists after.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes. When, you know, at what point do the ends justify the means, right? But in looking at those programs, and we acquired Hitler's favorite weapons designers, and I'm talking about weapons of mass destruction like chemical weapons and biological weapons, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes. When, you know, at what point do the ends justify the means, right? But in looking at those programs, and we acquired Hitler's favorite weapons designers, and I'm talking about weapons of mass destruction like chemical weapons and biological weapons, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes. When, you know, at what point do the ends justify the means, right? But in looking at those programs, and we acquired Hitler's favorite weapons designers, and I'm talking about weapons of mass destruction like chemical weapons and biological weapons, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

But, of course, America was ahead in the nuclear program, and an interesting detail reading Albert Speer's memoirs was Speer referring to a conversation he had with Hitler where Hitler said, no, I don't want to do that. That's Jewish science. And so because of Hitler's own racial, ethnic prejudices, they didn't develop the bomb, right? As far as should we have dropped the bombs on Hiroshima,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

But, of course, America was ahead in the nuclear program, and an interesting detail reading Albert Speer's memoirs was Speer referring to a conversation he had with Hitler where Hitler said, no, I don't want to do that. That's Jewish science. And so because of Hitler's own racial, ethnic prejudices, they didn't develop the bomb, right? As far as should we have dropped the bombs on Hiroshima,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

But, of course, America was ahead in the nuclear program, and an interesting detail reading Albert Speer's memoirs was Speer referring to a conversation he had with Hitler where Hitler said, no, I don't want to do that. That's Jewish science. And so because of Hitler's own racial, ethnic prejudices, they didn't develop the bomb, right? As far as should we have dropped the bombs on Hiroshima,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, I've interviewed all kinds of people with different opinions, most of them that it ended the war. The best interview and most meaningful perhaps that I ever did was with Al O'Donnell, who was a participant in the Battle of Okinawa, which was like this insane... Just to read stories about Okinawa, it makes your hair stand on end. And O'Donnell, like so many others, was slated to...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, I've interviewed all kinds of people with different opinions, most of them that it ended the war. The best interview and most meaningful perhaps that I ever did was with Al O'Donnell, who was a participant in the Battle of Okinawa, which was like this insane... Just to read stories about Okinawa, it makes your hair stand on end. And O'Donnell, like so many others, was slated to...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

You know, I've interviewed all kinds of people with different opinions, most of them that it ended the war. The best interview and most meaningful perhaps that I ever did was with Al O'Donnell, who was a participant in the Battle of Okinawa, which was like this insane... Just to read stories about Okinawa, it makes your hair stand on end. And O'Donnell, like so many others, was slated to...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

invade mainland japan to his almost certain death right so somebody like that it makes sense right from the get-go why he would be pro-nuclear weapons it saved his own personal life and it saved everyone that he knew that he was fighting with and it ended the war

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

invade mainland japan to his almost certain death right so somebody like that it makes sense right from the get-go why he would be pro-nuclear weapons it saved his own personal life and it saved everyone that he knew that he was fighting with and it ended the war

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

invade mainland japan to his almost certain death right so somebody like that it makes sense right from the get-go why he would be pro-nuclear weapons it saved his own personal life and it saved everyone that he knew that he was fighting with and it ended the war

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes, that's an interesting thought. My thought goes to this idea that like of more, right, that everybody always wants more. It's a very dangerous. It's like more power, literally, not just figure it more power. Right. And what what is more confounding to me is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes, that's an interesting thought. My thought goes to this idea that like of more, right, that everybody always wants more. It's a very dangerous. It's like more power, literally, not just figure it more power. Right. And what what is more confounding to me is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Yes, that's an interesting thought. My thought goes to this idea that like of more, right, that everybody always wants more. It's a very dangerous. It's like more power, literally, not just figure it more power. Right. And what what is more confounding to me is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

beyond the fact that we dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the war ended, is that this decision was then made to develop the thermonuclear bomb, a force that is such... The degree of magnitude of that power is mind-boggling. I mean, even projects within the Manhattan Project... defined thermonuclear weapon, the thermonuclear weapon, as the evil thing. Like, it was evil.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

beyond the fact that we dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the war ended, is that this decision was then made to develop the thermonuclear bomb, a force that is such... The degree of magnitude of that power is mind-boggling. I mean, even projects within the Manhattan Project... defined thermonuclear weapon, the thermonuclear weapon, as the evil thing. Like, it was evil.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

beyond the fact that we dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the war ended, is that this decision was then made to develop the thermonuclear bomb, a force that is such... The degree of magnitude of that power is mind-boggling. I mean, even projects within the Manhattan Project... defined thermonuclear weapon, the thermonuclear weapon, as the evil thing. Like, it was evil.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

It's a weapon of genocide. Atomic weapons destroy cities. Thermonuclear weapons destroy civilizations.