Annie Jacobsen
π€ SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
I can't imagine that not happening. I think that's why people love post-apocalyptic television shows and films, because they see that. And then, of course, there's always one great charismatic person who's trying to restore morality. And these are great narratives that people like to tell themselves in the world of science fiction. But what we're dealing with is science fact in this scenario.
I can't imagine that not happening. I think that's why people love post-apocalyptic television shows and films, because they see that. And then, of course, there's always one great charismatic person who's trying to restore morality. And these are great narratives that people like to tell themselves in the world of science fiction. But what we're dealing with is science fact in this scenario.
And it is meant... to terrify people into realizing, wait a minute, this is a conversation that absolutely should be have had while it can still be had. Because the realities, when you have the director of FEMA telling you this, It's a real wake-up call.
And it is meant... to terrify people into realizing, wait a minute, this is a conversation that absolutely should be have had while it can still be had. Because the realities, when you have the director of FEMA telling you this, It's a real wake-up call.
And it is meant... to terrify people into realizing, wait a minute, this is a conversation that absolutely should be have had while it can still be had. Because the realities, when you have the director of FEMA telling you this, It's a real wake-up call.
And by the way, Craig Fugate was so transparently human with me, and I quote him directly in the book, but he spoke about, you asked me earlier about, like, what would be going through the president's mind, and we don't know, I don't know. But Craig Fugate told me what would be going through his mind.
And by the way, Craig Fugate was so transparently human with me, and I quote him directly in the book, but he spoke about, you asked me earlier about, like, what would be going through the president's mind, and we don't know, I don't know. But Craig Fugate told me what would be going through his mind.
And by the way, Craig Fugate was so transparently human with me, and I quote him directly in the book, but he spoke about, you asked me earlier about, like, what would be going through the president's mind, and we don't know, I don't know. But Craig Fugate told me what would be going through his mind.
And he said, along the lines I'm paraphrasing, like, it's almost something you couldn't even comprehend. You would just, it would just... ruin you. His words are really powerful. And of course, the FEMA director in the scenario is notified in that first window while the ballistic missile is on its way, and no one in America yet knows.
And he said, along the lines I'm paraphrasing, like, it's almost something you couldn't even comprehend. You would just, it would just... ruin you. His words are really powerful. And of course, the FEMA director in the scenario is notified in that first window while the ballistic missile is on its way, and no one in America yet knows.
And he said, along the lines I'm paraphrasing, like, it's almost something you couldn't even comprehend. You would just, it would just... ruin you. His words are really powerful. And of course, the FEMA director in the scenario is notified in that first window while the ballistic missile is on its way, and no one in America yet knows.
And I have the FEMA director pull over to the side of the road and jump in a helicopter that's sent for him to take him to the bunker that FEMA goes to, which is called Mount Weather. And so he's aware that, Fugate was aware that as FEMA director, you would likely be
And I have the FEMA director pull over to the side of the road and jump in a helicopter that's sent for him to take him to the bunker that FEMA goes to, which is called Mount Weather. And so he's aware that, Fugate was aware that as FEMA director, you would likely be
And I have the FEMA director pull over to the side of the road and jump in a helicopter that's sent for him to take him to the bunker that FEMA goes to, which is called Mount Weather. And so he's aware that, Fugate was aware that as FEMA director, you would likely be
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.