Annie Jacobsen
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But I once asked Billy when I was trying to get the question, you know, and he wouldn't answer it. And I said, so there's another person in my book named Rick Prado, who's also like a legendary agency guy. And so, you know, he's like 20 years younger than Billy. And I said... Billy, if you and Rick had to kill each other, like who would win, right?
I was trying to imagine this like hypothetical, like how would that work? Who would win, right? And I posed the question to each of them, right? And of course, each of them said me, right? But Billy, then I went back to them and Billy said, let me tell you how I would win. Okay, right? And he said, I'd cheat. I'd show up before the duel and I'd kill him.
I was trying to imagine this like hypothetical, like how would that work? Who would win, right? And I posed the question to each of them, right? And of course, each of them said me, right? But Billy, then I went back to them and Billy said, let me tell you how I would win. Okay, right? And he said, I'd cheat. I'd show up before the duel and I'd kill him.
I was trying to imagine this like hypothetical, like how would that work? Who would win, right? And I posed the question to each of them, right? And of course, each of them said me, right? But Billy, then I went back to them and Billy said, let me tell you how I would win. Okay, right? And he said, I'd cheat. I'd show up before the duel and I'd kill him.
Well, you would be amazed at what the women do. Let me just tell you that. Women are part of the Special Activities Division. A big part of it.
Well, you would be amazed at what the women do. Let me just tell you that. Women are part of the Special Activities Division. A big part of it.
Well, you would be amazed at what the women do. Let me just tell you that. Women are part of the Special Activities Division. A big part of it.
I can. Women can get a hell of a lot closer to a target. And I mean that literally.
I can. Women can get a hell of a lot closer to a target. And I mean that literally.
I can. Women can get a hell of a lot closer to a target. And I mean that literally.
The Special Activities Division, now it's called the Special Activities Center. But originally, that's the umbrella agency that has the different paramilitary organizations under it, right? So the most lethal one is Ground Branch. And that's what I reported on in Surprise Kill Vanish. And its origins go way back to the Guerrilla Warfare Corps that was started in 1947 for the president.
The Special Activities Division, now it's called the Special Activities Center. But originally, that's the umbrella agency that has the different paramilitary organizations under it, right? So the most lethal one is Ground Branch. And that's what I reported on in Surprise Kill Vanish. And its origins go way back to the Guerrilla Warfare Corps that was started in 1947 for the president.
The Special Activities Division, now it's called the Special Activities Center. But originally, that's the umbrella agency that has the different paramilitary organizations under it, right? So the most lethal one is Ground Branch. And that's what I reported on in Surprise Kill Vanish. And its origins go way back to the Guerrilla Warfare Corps that was started in 1947 for the president.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Well, I think it's because mostly, from what I understand, it's a really dirty game. And people are covering for people, right? And I'll give you the example of Billy Wah and Imad Mugnia, if I may, right? So Imad Mugnia was the most wanted terrorist in the world before bin Laden. You know, Hezbollah's chief of operations. And he was wanted by every, you know, Mossad on down.
Well, I think it's because mostly, from what I understand, it's a really dirty game. And people are covering for people, right? And I'll give you the example of Billy Wah and Imad Mugnia, if I may, right? So Imad Mugnia was the most wanted terrorist in the world before bin Laden. You know, Hezbollah's chief of operations. And he was wanted by every, you know, Mossad on down.
Well, I think it's because mostly, from what I understand, it's a really dirty game. And people are covering for people, right? And I'll give you the example of Billy Wah and Imad Mugnia, if I may, right? So Imad Mugnia was the most wanted terrorist in the world before bin Laden. You know, Hezbollah's chief of operations. And he was wanted by every, you know, Mossad on down.
But no one could find him. He was missing for 20 years. There wasn't even a photograph of him. And then he resurfaced. And of all places, he resurfaced in Saudi Arabia, okay? So what? That's when I say it's a dirty game, right? Hezbollah, Iran. Hezbollah, Iran. Enemies with Saudi Arabia. Why on earth was Imad Mugnia in Saudi Arabia? Well, that's where he was.