Annie Jacobsen

I think Putin is – I would have told you five years ago that Putin would – he's a former intelligence officer.

He's familiar with history.

He knows better and now I have a changed opinion about that.

I think it's very dangerous and I think that he – you know, his use of the Ereshnik was sort of like a – like that was a ballistic missile that is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

There wasn't a nuclear warhead in it.

He did notify the State Department prior to the launch of that, you know, 30 minutes prior.

But that's like incredibly dangerous.

So everything is dangerous.

Any nuclear-armed nation that –

you know, threatens nuclear weapons is dangerous.

But AI is its own extraordinary level of danger.

And the article that you wrote speaks to that.

Now, my understanding is currently everybody knows that, you know, air quotes.

And then when you learn, when I learned about the

Department of War, anthropic AI, late-at-night battle over using AI in these systems, I was surprised.

Why?

Because I thought there was more restraint on that.

And what I see in this administration— From the government.

Yes.

And to see sort of the same bravado that we do agree on is coming out of this administration—