Annie Jacobsen

Yes.

And this speaks to the revolutionary nature of Iran, which has been taking place since 1979.

In the news today, people hear the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

And it's so important to understand that word, revolution, because—

and you can speak to this better than any of us, but Iran has been holding on to this idea, or rather the regime has, that we are the revolutionary force against America.

That is why the chant is always, death to America.

The wound of pre-1975, the wound of America meddling and having the Shah as its puppet, is as inflamed or was as inflamed two days ago

as it was the day after the revolution in 1979.

Zero.

Zero.

There's not even an embassy there because, of course, they took our embassy or they took over the embassy.

I mean, it's been like ground zero of nothing for the CIA's power, for any American power, really for any Western power.

And yet look exactly where it is.

It's right in the middle of the east.

And to Benjamin's point, oil, oil, oil.

It's always about oil.

There's always a component of oil.

I have a little bit of a different take, shall I?

Mm-hmm.

I believe the current administration is led as a completely top-down situation.