Annie Jacobsen

And we don't know about any of them.

But again, this is something I've been writing about in all of my books, because the degree of presidential power, of executive branch power that exists and that has existed since World War II is astonishing.

And most people do not realize or know about.

And it's only when some of these radical people,

You know, situations come to the fore that people learn about them.

And then I think many people are astonished to learn about them.

But it would probably be better to understand how they've always been there.

And it's literally just a man, a matter of who uses what kind of authority.

You know, you saw during the Bush administration, the real exercise of that executive authority for the first time in the modern era.

for the first time in the modern era.

But they had always been there.

Going back to, interestingly, because Dick Cheney was the vice president.

Some people say he was acting like the president.

Touché.

But, you know, I write in Surprise Kill Vanish about how Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were the chief of staff and the deputy chief of staff to Ford.

After Nixon was impeached, this is where you can see absolutely the resurgence, the rebirth of executive authority that came directly out of Rumsfeld and Cheney's fear that the church hearings.

Sorry for too much history.

No, no, no.

are what investigated the CIA over the assassinations, right?

So the church hearings are happening and we need to, you know, everyone's screaming and shouting.