Annie Jacobsen

I want the real story from the president.

Right.

You're not going to get it.

I don't think I could read a biography by him, to be fair.

What did he say?

Did you find the quote?

I got to see that real quote because that's some really heavy subtext there.

Well, that's very weird and cryptic because he says, I saw some things on TV that made me wonder.

Right.

And by dragging the moon into it, there's just no way that you can do anything but infer that he's referencing that.

And has anyone ever asked him about that on follow-up?

So will politics in the United States ever change to a point where we can have individuals who accept their responsibility?

I mean, another crazy thing, again, interviewing Panetta about Clinton, you know, as his chief of staff, it's like, oh, this is Panetta talking, that the presidents are –

very under-informed about any of their responsibilities about nuclear war.

They don't know how it unfolds.

They don't know how fast it is.

Did you know that they have a six-minute window to make a counterattack?

Six-minute window.

And that comes from President Reagan's memoir, by the way.

He said that there's a quote from him, which I have in the book, a six-minute window to have to make a decision to possibly end the world is irrational.