Annie Jacobsen
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6 recordings
5 series
first heard Mar 2024
last heard 4 Mar
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And so people will be forced to live underground.
And so you have to imagine people living underground, fighting for food everywhere except for in New Zealand and Australia.
There was also another interesting detail that he shared with me that, you know, 66 million years ago, an asteroid hit Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs and something like 70% of the known species.
And Professor Toon compared nuclear war to that situation.
And so when you really think about it, and again, this was also echoed by Craig Fugate, FEMA's director, you think about it, there's nothing we can do about an asteroid.
At least not right now.
And yet there is something.
Nuclear war is a man-made threat.
And therefore, it has to be a man-made solution.
I really believe that people motivate other people.
It's like a fundamental truth on the smallest scale and on the biggest scale.
And so there's one person who is incredibly powerful, and that is the president of the United States.
For better or for worse, it's just the way it is.
And so in the same way that the president has presidential sole authority to start a nuclear war, the president also has a very powerful pen with which he can write executive orders, an EO.
And the story I tell on the hopeful note goes like this.
When I was in high school in 1983, there was an ABC TV movie called The Day After.
And it showed a fictional war between the United States and then Soviet Russia.
It was horrific and terrifying, okay?
A hundred million Americans watched it.
A hundred million Americans.
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