Annie Jacobsen
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first heard Mar 2024
last heard 4 Mar
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I mean, I leave that to people like you to think about and talk about because I do and I am fascinated that I find that people of your generation ask that question a lot more than perhaps people of my generation and older.
Like that was not a mindset that people necessarily hadn't talked about.
And I think that has to do with the confluence of events that you talk about.
First of all, people have access to information in a manner they didn't
you know, 30, 40 years ago, or it took a lot more effort.
And also that there are these incredible new threats that you're talking about that you cannot overlook.
And so you would think that it's time to kind of... And I'm not a Pollyanna, but you have to move away from seeing everyone and everything as an enemy and moving toward...
It's fine to have adversaries.
Having opponents is, you know, sportsmen have opponents, right?
But everyone being an enemy and having wars escalating around the world, it seems as if what you are saying is there has to be a fundamental shift in what people are considering important.
So I read a lot about the origin of war.
Like it's a debate, but it is discussed.
And the anthropologists, I think, have the most interesting sort of thoughtful concepts around it, which I'll share with you, which is this.
Because, yes, technically there has always been war.
And one of the debates is, you know, did war begin with civilization or were hunter-gatherers warring?
But more interesting to that, I think, is about the anthropologists who studied –
in the 60s, the hunter-gatherer tribes, like in the Amazon, when there were still access to them, and they were sort of, you know, they were unaffected by civilization at all.
And they could look at how they perceived enemies.
And an interesting idea came out of that, which makes me think about optimists versus pessimists, right?
Sort of, or rather, those who trust versus those who are suspicious.
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