Annie Jacobsen

Enemies you kill in war, adversaries you work with so that you don't have a war. And that is why the world went... from 70,000 nuclear warheads in 1986 to approximately 12,300 we have today. Nuclear disarmament, I have learned from my colleagues who work in this lane, is the pathway toward getting those arsenals greatly reduced, which makes all of us safer.

If that's based on hope, I will take hope as an option.

If that's based on hope, I will take hope as an option.

If that's based on hope, I will take hope as an option.

Thank you so much for having me. And thank you for your service. We're all on the same team.

Thank you so much for having me. And thank you for your service. We're all on the same team.

Thank you so much for having me. And thank you for your service. We're all on the same team.

We all are on the same team. That's what you really realize. All of us, all 8 billion of us.

We all are on the same team. That's what you really realize. All of us, all 8 billion of us.

We all are on the same team. That's what you really realize. All of us, all 8 billion of us.

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Hi, Joe.

Thanks for having me back.

A lot's happening.

Okay.

Well, hopefully you can read it and then you can decide if you're of the freaked out crowd or of the really freaked out crowd.

I think so.

It doesn't end well.

That's the spoiler alert.

Nuclear War, a scenario.