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Annie Jacobsen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2318 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

I mean, here's a crazy nomenclature jargon thing for you. Ready? Escalate to de-escalate. That's what comes out of it. Think about what I just said. Escalate to de-escalate. Okay, so someone strikes you with a nuclear weapon, you're going to escalate it, right? General Hyten recently said, he was STRATCOM commander, you know,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

I mean, here's a crazy nomenclature jargon thing for you. Ready? Escalate to de-escalate. That's what comes out of it. Think about what I just said. Escalate to de-escalate. Okay, so someone strikes you with a nuclear weapon, you're going to escalate it, right? General Hyten recently said, he was STRATCOM commander, you know,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

He was sort of saber-rattling with North Korea during COVID, and he said, they need to know if they launch one nuclear weapon, we launch one. If they launch two, we launch two. But it's actually more than that. They launch one, we launch 80. Okay? That's called escalate to de-escalate. Like, pound the you-know-what out of them to get them to stop.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

He was sort of saber-rattling with North Korea during COVID, and he said, they need to know if they launch one nuclear weapon, we launch one. If they launch two, we launch two. But it's actually more than that. They launch one, we launch 80. Okay? That's called escalate to de-escalate. Like, pound the you-know-what out of them to get them to stop.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

He was sort of saber-rattling with North Korea during COVID, and he said, they need to know if they launch one nuclear weapon, we launch one. If they launch two, we launch two. But it's actually more than that. They launch one, we launch 80. Okay? That's called escalate to de-escalate. Like, pound the you-know-what out of them to get them to stop.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Which brings us to the most terrifying facts that I learned in all of that, and that has to do with errors, right? Not errors of like we spoke about a minute ago with a simulation test tape. I'm talking about if... One madman, one nihilistic madman were to launch a nuclear weapon, as I write in the scenario. And we needed to escalate to de-escalate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Which brings us to the most terrifying facts that I learned in all of that, and that has to do with errors, right? Not errors of like we spoke about a minute ago with a simulation test tape. I'm talking about if... One madman, one nihilistic madman were to launch a nuclear weapon, as I write in the scenario. And we needed to escalate to de-escalate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Which brings us to the most terrifying facts that I learned in all of that, and that has to do with errors, right? Not errors of like we spoke about a minute ago with a simulation test tape. I'm talking about if... One madman, one nihilistic madman were to launch a nuclear weapon, as I write in the scenario. And we needed to escalate to de-escalate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

We needed to send nuclear weapons at, let's say, North Korea, as I do in my scenario. Well, what is completely unknown to 98% of the planet is that...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

We needed to send nuclear weapons at, let's say, North Korea, as I do in my scenario. Well, what is completely unknown to 98% of the planet is that...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

We needed to send nuclear weapons at, let's say, North Korea, as I do in my scenario. Well, what is completely unknown to 98% of the planet is that...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Not only do the Russians have a very flawed satellite system so that they cannot interpret what is happening properly, but there is an absolutely existential flaw in the system, which Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta confirmed with me, which is that our ICBMs do not have enough range. if we launch a counterattack against, say, North Korea, our ICBMs must fly over Russia.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Not only do the Russians have a very flawed satellite system so that they cannot interpret what is happening properly, but there is an absolutely existential flaw in the system, which Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta confirmed with me, which is that our ICBMs do not have enough range. if we launch a counterattack against, say, North Korea, our ICBMs must fly over Russia.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Not only do the Russians have a very flawed satellite system so that they cannot interpret what is happening properly, but there is an absolutely existential flaw in the system, which Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta confirmed with me, which is that our ICBMs do not have enough range. if we launch a counterattack against, say, North Korea, our ICBMs must fly over Russia.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They must fly over Russia. So imagine saying, oh, no, no, these 82 warheads that are going to actually strike the northern Korean peninsula are not coming for you, Russia, our adversary right now that we're sort of saber-rattling with. Just trust us. And that is where nuclear war unfolds into Armageddon. And that hole in national security is shocking.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They must fly over Russia. So imagine saying, oh, no, no, these 82 warheads that are going to actually strike the northern Korean peninsula are not coming for you, Russia, our adversary right now that we're sort of saber-rattling with. Just trust us. And that is where nuclear war unfolds into Armageddon. And that hole in national security is shocking.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

They must fly over Russia. So imagine saying, oh, no, no, these 82 warheads that are going to actually strike the northern Korean peninsula are not coming for you, Russia, our adversary right now that we're sort of saber-rattling with. Just trust us. And that is where nuclear war unfolds into Armageddon. And that hole in national security is shocking.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And as Panetta told me, no one wants to discuss it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And as Panetta told me, no one wants to discuss it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 โ€“ Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

And as Panetta told me, no one wants to discuss it.