Annie Jacobsen
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And or that the close advisors near the president would make that happen.
And or that the close advisors near the president would make that happen.
So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?
So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?
So to answer those questions, I interviewed a number of people, but most specifically General Tuhill, who was Obama's cyber chief. And he was actually America's first cyber chief. And the nuclear command and control system, and really the triad, functions on analog systems. It functions on old-school systems. If there's not digital interface, you can't hack into it, right?
So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.
So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.
So most of the issues that I raise in the book have to do with what happens to... cyber after a nuclear attack, right? What happens to cyber in the minutes after a bomb, a nuclear weapon strikes America, and how that impacts the ability for people to communicate with one another. And that's when chaos takes control.
I was told by many people I interviewed. that the biggest fear in Washington, D.C. is what's called a bolt-out-of-the-blue attack. That's an unwarned nuclear attack against Washington, D.C. The target would be the Pentagon. And that's what I begin the scenario with, you know? And I reported in graphic, horrifying detail what happens.
I was told by many people I interviewed. that the biggest fear in Washington, D.C. is what's called a bolt-out-of-the-blue attack. That's an unwarned nuclear attack against Washington, D.C. The target would be the Pentagon. And that's what I begin the scenario with, you know? And I reported in graphic, horrifying detail what happens.
I was told by many people I interviewed. that the biggest fear in Washington, D.C. is what's called a bolt-out-of-the-blue attack. That's an unwarned nuclear attack against Washington, D.C. The target would be the Pentagon. And that's what I begin the scenario with, you know? And I reported in graphic, horrifying detail what happens.
Because I don't know what's worse, me writing that all out or the fact that it's all documented by the Defense Department. I mean, they have been documenting the effect of nuclear weapons on people and animals and things since the earliest days of the Cold War. And all of the details I pull are from these documents like the effects of nuclear weapons.
Because I don't know what's worse, me writing that all out or the fact that it's all documented by the Defense Department. I mean, they have been documenting the effect of nuclear weapons on people and animals and things since the earliest days of the Cold War. And all of the details I pull are from these documents like the effects of nuclear weapons.
Because I don't know what's worse, me writing that all out or the fact that it's all documented by the Defense Department. I mean, they have been documenting the effect of nuclear weapons on people and animals and things since the earliest days of the Cold War. And all of the details I pull are from these documents like the effects of nuclear weapons.
And again, this document was the original information, the original data in this document come from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Right. It was all classified. And then it was built upon by those 200 some odd atmospheric nuclear weapons test we did. And, you know, we're talking about like millimeters and inches.
And again, this document was the original information, the original data in this document come from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Right. It was all classified. And then it was built upon by those 200 some odd atmospheric nuclear weapons test we did. And, you know, we're talking about like millimeters and inches.
And again, this document was the original information, the original data in this document come from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Right. It was all classified. And then it was built upon by those 200 some odd atmospheric nuclear weapons test we did. And, you know, we're talking about like millimeters and inches.
We're talking about the Defense Department knowing that, oh, seven and a half miles out, the upholstery on cars will spontaneously combust. The pine needles will catch on fire. They will start more fires. You have all kinds of mayhem and chaos happening based on reported facts from observations. And this is really shocking and grotesque at the same time.
We're talking about the Defense Department knowing that, oh, seven and a half miles out, the upholstery on cars will spontaneously combust. The pine needles will catch on fire. They will start more fires. You have all kinds of mayhem and chaos happening based on reported facts from observations. And this is really shocking and grotesque at the same time.
We're talking about the Defense Department knowing that, oh, seven and a half miles out, the upholstery on cars will spontaneously combust. The pine needles will catch on fire. They will start more fires. You have all kinds of mayhem and chaos happening based on reported facts from observations. And this is really shocking and grotesque at the same time.