Annie Jacobsen
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And I have the FEMA director pull over to the side of the road and jump in a helicopter that's sent for him to take him to the bunker that FEMA goes to, which is called Mount Weather. And so he's aware that, Fugate was aware that as FEMA director, you would likely be
And I have the FEMA director pull over to the side of the road and jump in a helicopter that's sent for him to take him to the bunker that FEMA goes to, which is called Mount Weather. And so he's aware that, Fugate was aware that as FEMA director, you would likely be
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
taken to a safe place however many hours you're going to be safe or days or maybe weeks or maybe months but as i also learned from the cyber people i interviewed that you know there's a complete fallacy that these military bases can continue functioning they run on diesel fuel and when the fuel stops pumping there's no more generators electricity's gone
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.
So for that, I was super privileged to talk to Professor Brian Toon, who is one of the original five authors of the nuclear winter theory. And that theory was developed and was published in the early 1980s. One of Professor Toon's professors was Carl Sagan, who was sort of the most famous author of the nuclear winter theory.
And, you know, there were all kinds of controversies about it when it came out, including the Defense Department saying it was Soviet propaganda, which it wasn't. And what the nuclear winter author's theory What conceded back in the 80s was that their modeling was just the best it could be based on what they had at the time.
And, you know, there were all kinds of controversies about it when it came out, including the Defense Department saying it was Soviet propaganda, which it wasn't. And what the nuclear winter author's theory What conceded back in the 80s was that their modeling was just the best it could be based on what they had at the time.
And, you know, there were all kinds of controversies about it when it came out, including the Defense Department saying it was Soviet propaganda, which it wasn't. And what the nuclear winter author's theory What conceded back in the 80s was that their modeling was just the best it could be based on what they had at the time.
And so now flash forward to where we are in 2024 and talking to Professor Toon, who's been working on this issue for all these decades since, he shared with me. how the climate models today with the systems we have, the computer systems, reveal that actually nuclear winter is worse, right? So to answer your questions, the bombs stop falling. In my scenario, 72 minutes after they first launch.
And so now flash forward to where we are in 2024 and talking to Professor Toon, who's been working on this issue for all these decades since, he shared with me. how the climate models today with the systems we have, the computer systems, reveal that actually nuclear winter is worse, right? So to answer your questions, the bombs stop falling. In my scenario, 72 minutes after they first launch.
And so now flash forward to where we are in 2024 and talking to Professor Toon, who's been working on this issue for all these decades since, he shared with me. how the climate models today with the systems we have, the computer systems, reveal that actually nuclear winter is worse, right? So to answer your questions, the bombs stop falling. In my scenario, 72 minutes after they first launch.
The bombs stop falling. And then the megafires begin. Each nuclear weapon will have, according to the Defense Department, A megafire that will burn between 100 and 300 square miles. So 1,000 weapons, 1,500 weapons, think about those megafires. Everything is burning, forests, cities. Think about the pyrotoxins in all the cities, you know, high-rises burning.
The bombs stop falling. And then the megafires begin. Each nuclear weapon will have, according to the Defense Department, A megafire that will burn between 100 and 300 square miles. So 1,000 weapons, 1,500 weapons, think about those megafires. Everything is burning, forests, cities. Think about the pyrotoxins in all the cities, you know, high-rises burning.
The bombs stop falling. And then the megafires begin. Each nuclear weapon will have, according to the Defense Department, A megafire that will burn between 100 and 300 square miles. So 1,000 weapons, 1,500 weapons, think about those megafires. Everything is burning, forests, cities. Think about the pyrotoxins in all the cities, you know, high-rises burning.
And all of this soot gets lofted into the air, according to Toon, some 300 billion pounds of soot. And what happens? It blocks out the sun. And without sun, we have nuclear winter. We have a situation whereby ice sheets form. You're talking about bodies of water in places like Iowa being frozen for 10 years.
And all of this soot gets lofted into the air, according to Toon, some 300 billion pounds of soot. And what happens? It blocks out the sun. And without sun, we have nuclear winter. We have a situation whereby ice sheets form. You're talking about bodies of water in places like Iowa being frozen for 10 years.
And all of this soot gets lofted into the air, according to Toon, some 300 billion pounds of soot. And what happens? It blocks out the sun. And without sun, we have nuclear winter. We have a situation whereby ice sheets form. You're talking about bodies of water in places like Iowa being frozen for 10 years.