Annie Jacobsen

And that is the movement toward disarmament to bring back the spirit of disarmament that was begun by Reagan and Gorbachev in the 1980s. And I believe that those two pathways can be pursued at once. And I would hope my signal to the president, who I know read my book because he said it on a podcast.

And that is the movement toward disarmament to bring back the spirit of disarmament that was begun by Reagan and Gorbachev in the 1980s. And I believe that those two pathways can be pursued at once. And I would hope my signal to the president, who I know read my book because he said it on a podcast.

would be actively pursuing because we are in deep, deep, deep danger of creating and of ratcheting up the nuclear arms race if the denuclearization path is not pursued.

would be actively pursuing because we are in deep, deep, deep danger of creating and of ratcheting up the nuclear arms race if the denuclearization path is not pursued.

would be actively pursuing because we are in deep, deep, deep danger of creating and of ratcheting up the nuclear arms race if the denuclearization path is not pursued.

Mm-hmm. I'm not, I would say that's not my lane and it's, and that's not meant to dodge the question, but I will give you an alternative. Okay. The alternative, because, because my job as a author, as a journalist is, is to write a narrative, write a compelling narrative that people read. And then they say to the person, you have to read this. And then they have a conversation about it.

Mm-hmm. I'm not, I would say that's not my lane and it's, and that's not meant to dodge the question, but I will give you an alternative. Okay. The alternative, because, because my job as a author, as a journalist is, is to write a narrative, write a compelling narrative that people read. And then they say to the person, you have to read this. And then they have a conversation about it.

Mm-hmm. I'm not, I would say that's not my lane and it's, and that's not meant to dodge the question, but I will give you an alternative. Okay. The alternative, because, because my job as a author, as a journalist is, is to write a narrative, write a compelling narrative that people read. And then they say to the person, you have to read this. And then they have a conversation about it.

And then they, Others have conversations about it. So hope may not be an option inside the nuclear command and control, the same as luck is not an option. And I would say that's more of what we've been working with. But for me, just in my own lane, hope is absolutely imperative.

And then they, Others have conversations about it. So hope may not be an option inside the nuclear command and control, the same as luck is not an option. And I would say that's more of what we've been working with. But for me, just in my own lane, hope is absolutely imperative.

And then they, Others have conversations about it. So hope may not be an option inside the nuclear command and control, the same as luck is not an option. And I would say that's more of what we've been working with. But for me, just in my own lane, hope is absolutely imperative.

And so that's where I tell, and I believe in the power of the president, unfortunately, like it or not, the American president is so powerful, his EO pen. And we're seeing that now. I mean, I've been writing about presidents since Truman and I'm, and I've been writing about EOs and I've been writing about title 50 and title 10. And I know about the power of the president, but

And so that's where I tell, and I believe in the power of the president, unfortunately, like it or not, the American president is so powerful, his EO pen. And we're seeing that now. I mean, I've been writing about presidents since Truman and I'm, and I've been writing about EOs and I've been writing about title 50 and title 10. And I know about the power of the president, but

And so that's where I tell, and I believe in the power of the president, unfortunately, like it or not, the American president is so powerful, his EO pen. And we're seeing that now. I mean, I've been writing about presidents since Truman and I'm, and I've been writing about EOs and I've been writing about title 50 and title 10. And I know about the power of the president, but

And, you know, we we've seen this evolve over decades or I certainly haven't. So I'm not surprised that this president is demonstrating power that has always been there. And you can really have a longer conversation. We probably should about back to the church commission when Rumsfeld and Cheney were with Ford. I mean, I've written it. This is where this all. So the path.

And, you know, we we've seen this evolve over decades or I certainly haven't. So I'm not surprised that this president is demonstrating power that has always been there. And you can really have a longer conversation. We probably should about back to the church commission when Rumsfeld and Cheney were with Ford. I mean, I've written it. This is where this all. So the path.

And, you know, we we've seen this evolve over decades or I certainly haven't. So I'm not surprised that this president is demonstrating power that has always been there. And you can really have a longer conversation. We probably should about back to the church commission when Rumsfeld and Cheney were with Ford. I mean, I've written it. This is where this all. So the path.

So without digressing the power, the presidential pen is powerful. And I do believe that that is where the hopefulness lies. And I'm going to tell me briefly, tell the story, the one hopeful story about Reagan. Yeah, because I'm ready. I believe we can repeat itself. But Reagan was a hawk. He was a nuclear hawk. We all know this. We're old enough to know this. And he believed in nuclear weapons.

So without digressing the power, the presidential pen is powerful. And I do believe that that is where the hopefulness lies. And I'm going to tell me briefly, tell the story, the one hopeful story about Reagan. Yeah, because I'm ready. I believe we can repeat itself. But Reagan was a hawk. He was a nuclear hawk. We all know this. We're old enough to know this. And he believed in nuclear weapons.

So without digressing the power, the presidential pen is powerful. And I do believe that that is where the hopefulness lies. And I'm going to tell me briefly, tell the story, the one hopeful story about Reagan. Yeah, because I'm ready. I believe we can repeat itself. But Reagan was a hawk. He was a nuclear hawk. We all know this. We're old enough to know this. And he believed in nuclear weapons.