Annie Karni

Right. That men and women must be treated equal under the eyes of law. That's actually not language in the U.S. Constitution.

Right. That men and women must be treated equal under the eyes of law. That's actually not language in the U.S. Constitution.

Right. It will eventually apply to sex equality cases, the 14th Amendment, but it doesn't, as you say, specifically mention sex.

Right. It will eventually apply to sex equality cases, the 14th Amendment, but it doesn't, as you say, specifically mention sex.

And what happens once the women's rights movement is in blossom?

And what happens once the women's rights movement is in blossom?

So basically, you're saying by the early 1980s, this seems to be quite dead.

So basically, you're saying by the early 1980s, this seems to be quite dead.

Hmm. Just explain that.

Hmm. Just explain that.

Interesting.

Interesting.

So there is some real legitimate gray area here.

So there is some real legitimate gray area here.

If you believe that that congressional deadline is not real.

If you believe that that congressional deadline is not real.

A really interesting argument.

A really interesting argument.

The Trump position that the deadline matters and that this is not suddenly a constitutional amendment. Correct.

The Trump position that the deadline matters and that this is not suddenly a constitutional amendment. Correct.