Annie Karni

We did. I think that along the way, I found reporting the book a great help to my day job writing about Congress for The New York Times. I got a lot of daily stories out of book reporting. But you can also – You're doing interviews under embargo. So people are willing to tell you things that they wouldn't tell you for the daily paper when you say this is not for use until March 2025.

We did. I think that along the way, I found reporting the book a great help to my day job writing about Congress for The New York Times. I got a lot of daily stories out of book reporting. But you can also – You're doing interviews under embargo. So people are willing to tell you things that they wouldn't tell you for the daily paper when you say this is not for use until March 2025.

We did. I think that along the way, I found reporting the book a great help to my day job writing about Congress for The New York Times. I got a lot of daily stories out of book reporting. But you can also – You're doing interviews under embargo. So people are willing to tell you things that they wouldn't tell you for the daily paper when you say this is not for use until March 2025.

So I think that criticism, I understand why it's made, but... And it's not really fair. A lot of stuff isn't available in real time. And I think it's valuable to have it out eventually for history, for understanding the moment better. But it's just simply not available to use in real time. So would you rather have it never or would you rather have it later? And the book is the later.

So I think that criticism, I understand why it's made, but... And it's not really fair. A lot of stuff isn't available in real time. And I think it's valuable to have it out eventually for history, for understanding the moment better. But it's just simply not available to use in real time. So would you rather have it never or would you rather have it later? And the book is the later.

So I think that criticism, I understand why it's made, but... And it's not really fair. A lot of stuff isn't available in real time. And I think it's valuable to have it out eventually for history, for understanding the moment better. But it's just simply not available to use in real time. So would you rather have it never or would you rather have it later? And the book is the later.

So sometimes we would be able to peel off stuff and ask sources, is it OK if I use this now? But the agreement when you do these interviews is that it's embargoed for the book. And you can't really violate that agreement.

So sometimes we would be able to peel off stuff and ask sources, is it OK if I use this now? But the agreement when you do these interviews is that it's embargoed for the book. And you can't really violate that agreement.

So sometimes we would be able to peel off stuff and ask sources, is it OK if I use this now? But the agreement when you do these interviews is that it's embargoed for the book. And you can't really violate that agreement.

Frustration. I think, you know, right now what's happening is Chuck Schumer has become the bogeyman of the Democratic Party among rank and file House Democrats and among voters for just emotion and frustration at just wanting to do more, wanting to fight back. And this is because last week he voted with Republicans to stave off a government shutdown.

Frustration. I think, you know, right now what's happening is Chuck Schumer has become the bogeyman of the Democratic Party among rank and file House Democrats and among voters for just emotion and frustration at just wanting to do more, wanting to fight back. And this is because last week he voted with Republicans to stave off a government shutdown.

Frustration. I think, you know, right now what's happening is Chuck Schumer has become the bogeyman of the Democratic Party among rank and file House Democrats and among voters for just emotion and frustration at just wanting to do more, wanting to fight back. And this is because last week he voted with Republicans to stave off a government shutdown.

If Democrats had not joined Republicans in the Senate, we would be in a government shutdown right now. And Chuck Schumer has been defending this decision for the past week, saying that would have been much, much worse. Elon Musk and Donald Trump wanted a shutdown. It would have allowed them... to decide which programs are essential and not essential and therefore never bring them back.

If Democrats had not joined Republicans in the Senate, we would be in a government shutdown right now. And Chuck Schumer has been defending this decision for the past week, saying that would have been much, much worse. Elon Musk and Donald Trump wanted a shutdown. It would have allowed them... to decide which programs are essential and not essential and therefore never bring them back.

If Democrats had not joined Republicans in the Senate, we would be in a government shutdown right now. And Chuck Schumer has been defending this decision for the past week, saying that would have been much, much worse. Elon Musk and Donald Trump wanted a shutdown. It would have allowed them... to decide which programs are essential and not essential and therefore never bring them back.

His example that he's been talking a lot about is SNAP, food stamps. They could just say during a shutdown, this is not essential. And during a shutdown, there's no court check. So that could just go away. So on the merits, there's a good argument there. It's understandable why he did what he did. On the politics... There was white-hot anger at caving to Donald Trump.

His example that he's been talking a lot about is SNAP, food stamps. They could just say during a shutdown, this is not essential. And during a shutdown, there's no court check. So that could just go away. So on the merits, there's a good argument there. It's understandable why he did what he did. On the politics... There was white-hot anger at caving to Donald Trump.

His example that he's been talking a lot about is SNAP, food stamps. They could just say during a shutdown, this is not essential. And during a shutdown, there's no court check. So that could just go away. So on the merits, there's a good argument there. It's understandable why he did what he did. On the politics... There was white-hot anger at caving to Donald Trump.

One day he said he was going to stand up and be against it. The next day he voted for it. So he's under a lot of pressure right now. I think the issue that's going on right now is there was not a lot of explaining that a short-term government spending bill in March of 2025 is not the fight. People want to know what is the fight. Where are we going to have an opportunity to stand up to Republicans?

One day he said he was going to stand up and be against it. The next day he voted for it. So he's under a lot of pressure right now. I think the issue that's going on right now is there was not a lot of explaining that a short-term government spending bill in March of 2025 is not the fight. People want to know what is the fight. Where are we going to have an opportunity to stand up to Republicans?