Annie Macron

So we were trying to stop the infiltration, exfiltration of personnel and material into and out of the UK.

So I had to work a lot with organisations like the Customs and Portless Police and people like that.

Yes, Bishopsgate in 1993.

It was a lorry bomb that decimated the city of London.

and there were opportunities to stop the attack before it happened and they were missed and therefore the bomb went off and a person died and many people were injured.

It was terrible.

It was a huge explosion.

The key point that really perturbed my partner, as well as me, was the fact that they lied about it afterwards.

In MI5, because they are supposed to be accountable to the Home Secretary, who's supposed to, you know, sign them off to do all sorts of stuff.

And they covered up the mistakes they've made.

So I think thereby, you don't, an organisation cannot learn from their mistakes.

And by learning from mistakes, you can improve how you work, rather than just brushing them under the carpet.

So that was the key problem there.

Pretty much.

Pretty much.

But back in 1996...

This was seen as super secret because it's illegal to assassinate foreign heads of state.

So I was left with the happy task of trying to organise the exfiltration out of the UK.

I did.

So my recruiter said, you can tell that you're in the process of being recruited