Annie Macron

You're going to keep your plans or strategies safe that way.

Exactly.

I mean, all this stuff was there.

I mean, all the capabilities were there from the 80s, 90s onwards.

It was just much more labour intensive to do it.

Now, of course, with the internet and with social media and all the rest of it, it's click or switch.

And this is what people need to be aware of if they want to activate, if they want to get involved in campaigning or they want to try and make a difference or they just want to keep their privacy.

Basic human right.

very much the latter.

In fact, I got to the point in 1992, so I'd been there about 18 months, and I'd just been

looking at this stuff and writing these papers and saying, you know, this is not worth doing.

We should not be looking at these people.

And I was being ignored.

So I was actually on the brink of resignation.

It was at that point that I met a guy called David Shaler, who became my, not only colleague, but also my partner at the time.

And we fell in love and I didn't resign.

And we stayed there for another five years.

So, you know, there's always the personal as well as the professional, isn't there, that interleaves and overlaps.

I was given the desk to investigate Irish terrorist logistics.

So it wasn't just the Republicans, it was also the Loyalists.