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Over the next few days, nine adults left the compound, including Sheila Martin, the wife of Wayne Martin.

Sheila was allowed to call her husband in the compound, telling him, Everything went well.

The ride was bumpy.

Wayne gave a reply that the FBI considered cryptic.

It could be bumpy later too.

The negotiators were encouraged by the steady stream of surrenders.

They urged Steve to send out more people, but he said he couldn't as Koresh was sleeping and had to be consulted before anyone else could leave.

However, everything seemed to indicate that everyone would be out soon.

At around the same time, Chief Negotiator Gary Nasner learnt of a plan that would take the standoff into a whole new phase.

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FBI Special Agent in Charge Dick Schwein had recently arrived from the Texas city of El Paso to assist Jeff Jamar and other leaders.

SAC Dick Schwein wore a dark blue SWAT-style uniform, where the other SACs typically wore civilian clothing.

Chief Negotiator Gary Nasner would later describe SAC Schwein as…

A caricature of the gung-ho type, he seemed surprisingly cavalier and flippant about the process.

Once I heard him say in passing, ''No use trying to talk to these bastards, we've just got to go in there and cut their balls off.''

On the same day that Steve Schneider said he had to wait for Koresh to wake before releasing any more people, Gary Nesner learnt of a plan SAC Schwein had proposed.

He wanted to use the loudspeakers to broadcast music into the compound.