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Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

But before he could attempt to address the media, Livingston was arrested and taken to a local jail.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Late that night, the FBI continued their strategy of blasting high-powered beams into the compound while simultaneously broadcasting Tibetan chants, Christmas carols, and recordings of previous negotiations.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

This proved just as ineffective as before.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Chief Negotiator Gary Nesner continued to voice his displeasure at this approach, and on Wednesday March 24, he was removed from his role.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

It would later emerge that the HRT leader had complained that NASNA was impeding the tactical team's more aggressive efforts.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

In his memoir, Stalling for Time, NASNA later wrote, "...the real story was that, with the FBI seemingly helpless to compel the Davidians to surrender, Siege Commander Jeff Jamar was feeling the heat."

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The entire nation was watching and the FBI was spending about $128,000 a day.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Venting my frustrations more strongly than before, I told him that I didn't think we would get anyone else out after these recent actions.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

He appeared unconcerned.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

I realised then that he had already determined what he was going to do.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Gary Nasner was replaced by Clint Van Zant, a former member of the negotiation unit.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Nasner was concerned by this choice, knowing that Van Zant was a vocal born-again Christian.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Nasner worried that this would lead to Van Zant getting into arguments with Koresh about biblical scripture.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Sure enough, this concern proved warranted, with Van Zandt spending hours on the phone with Koresh trying to persuade him that his interpretation of the Bible was wrong.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Various negotiators on the team later confided in Nasna that they had been frustrated by this approach.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

After Nestner's exit, there were repeated attempts at negotiations and long conversations between Branch Davidians and FBI negotiators, all to no avail.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Progress had completely stalled.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Morale inside the compound was low.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

By this point, they'd been without electricity for weeks, relying on Coleman lanterns, kerosene, and propane for light and heat.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Their water supplies were depleting due to some of the outdoor receptacles having been shot at during the ATF raid.