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Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

This didn't have the desired effect, with both Koresh and Steve Schneider becoming upset with Cathy for not being a spokesperson for them.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

One of the FBI's hidden microphones picked up someone in the compound, stating, ''Cathy sounds like she's becoming one of them.''

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

After that, the FBI established a modified strategy.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The negotiators would remain friendly and courteous, but would take a firmer approach.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

They would continue to discuss finding a way to a peaceful resolution with the Branch Davidians, but would no longer listen to any more Bible babble.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

On Monday March 15, Koresh's two right-hand men, Steve Schneider and Wayne Martin, agreed to meet with negotiator Byron Sage and the McLennan County Sheriff in person.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

The four met on the grounds of Mount Carmel, about 20 yards from the front doors.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

All were putting themselves in a dangerous situation.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Byron Sage was terrified that someone from inside the compound might seize the moment to fire on him or the sheriff.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Meanwhile, some members of the HRT were fighting the urge to grab Steve and Wayne and arrest them as they stood there unarmed.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Their instincts to jump into action were only assuaged by directions from FBI leadership to leave the men alone.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Byron Sage spoke mostly to Steve, who was calm and made strong eye contact.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Wayne Martin seemed nervous, dressed in a three-piece suit and fidgeting.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Sage looked Steve directly in the eyes and reassured him that he would give his life to protect two documents, the US Constitution and the Bible.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

That was why he was meeting with them to come to a peaceful resolution.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Steve responded positively to this, telling Sage that he believed him completely and would do all that he could to conclude the siege, though he and Wayne repeatedly made it clear that Koresh would always have the final say.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

Steve Schneider and Byron Sage agreed to meet again the following day.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

When Steve went back into the compound, he told Koresh how much he liked and trusted Sage.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

That night, Jeff Jamar ordered combat engineer vehicles to clear everything within 50 yards of the Mount Carmel building.

Casefile True Crime
Case 339: Waco (Part 3/3)

They crushed cars that belonged to Branch Davidians and were parked around the property.