Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty

Just as a final question, how much of a problem is this in the USA?

Just as a final question, how much of a problem is this in the USA?

Just as a final question, how much of a problem is this in the USA?

Marcel, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

Marcel, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

Marcel, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

That was Dr. Marcel van der Waal, the president at the National Center on Sexual Exploitation in the United States. My next guest is Lala Appleberry, who lives in Boston, Massachusetts, in the United States. She's the executive director of Survivors Network NC. And Lala, you've been through some of these experiences yourself.

That was Dr. Marcel van der Waal, the president at the National Center on Sexual Exploitation in the United States. My next guest is Lala Appleberry, who lives in Boston, Massachusetts, in the United States. She's the executive director of Survivors Network NC. And Lala, you've been through some of these experiences yourself.

That was Dr. Marcel van der Waal, the president at the National Center on Sexual Exploitation in the United States. My next guest is Lala Appleberry, who lives in Boston, Massachusetts, in the United States. She's the executive director of Survivors Network NC. And Lala, you've been through some of these experiences yourself.

I really want to talk to you about the kind of sex trafficking we don't always see depicted, stuff that happens on a smaller scale inside intimate relationships.

I really want to talk to you about the kind of sex trafficking we don't always see depicted, stuff that happens on a smaller scale inside intimate relationships.

I really want to talk to you about the kind of sex trafficking we don't always see depicted, stuff that happens on a smaller scale inside intimate relationships.

You're 16. You're very young. And all these adult things are happening, probably make you feel quite mature. I'm going out to dinner. I'm getting picked up from school in a car. I feel good. I look good. This person likes me for me. How does that then turn into what we are now terming sex trafficking? What were the steps?

You're 16. You're very young. And all these adult things are happening, probably make you feel quite mature. I'm going out to dinner. I'm getting picked up from school in a car. I feel good. I look good. This person likes me for me. How does that then turn into what we are now terming sex trafficking? What were the steps?

You're 16. You're very young. And all these adult things are happening, probably make you feel quite mature. I'm going out to dinner. I'm getting picked up from school in a car. I feel good. I look good. This person likes me for me. How does that then turn into what we are now terming sex trafficking? What were the steps?

How does it turn from, you know, hang out with my friend and he might give you some money into, you know, it turns sexual. How does that happen? Does it feel like that's a choice you make or was it a possibility that was introduced to you?

How does it turn from, you know, hang out with my friend and he might give you some money into, you know, it turns sexual. How does that happen? Does it feel like that's a choice you make or was it a possibility that was introduced to you?

How does it turn from, you know, hang out with my friend and he might give you some money into, you know, it turns sexual. How does that happen? Does it feel like that's a choice you make or was it a possibility that was introduced to you?

You spoke there about feelings afterwards going, oh, I don't want to do that again and venting and ranting about it. So you were having feelings of this is uncomfortable. I don't know. I don't like it. How were you justifying it to yourself? You were seeing it as an act of love? You were seeing it as compromise?

You spoke there about feelings afterwards going, oh, I don't want to do that again and venting and ranting about it. So you were having feelings of this is uncomfortable. I don't know. I don't like it. How were you justifying it to yourself? You were seeing it as an act of love? You were seeing it as compromise?