Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty

You spoke there about feelings afterwards going, oh, I don't want to do that again and venting and ranting about it. So you were having feelings of this is uncomfortable. I don't know. I don't like it. How were you justifying it to yourself? You were seeing it as an act of love? You were seeing it as compromise?

You've got the facade of choice, the myth of choice that he's offered you. What's the exit plan for this? How did you get away?

You've got the facade of choice, the myth of choice that he's offered you. What's the exit plan for this? How did you get away?

You've got the facade of choice, the myth of choice that he's offered you. What's the exit plan for this? How did you get away?

And you speak there about assault and that being recognisably something that was a line crossed, right? When did you start to look back on these experiences and go, oh, OK, actually, I didn't choose that. This was forced.

And you speak there about assault and that being recognisably something that was a line crossed, right? When did you start to look back on these experiences and go, oh, OK, actually, I didn't choose that. This was forced.

And you speak there about assault and that being recognisably something that was a line crossed, right? When did you start to look back on these experiences and go, oh, OK, actually, I didn't choose that. This was forced.

One of the main questions people have is, you know, you didn't push for a conviction of your boyfriend or a charge of your then boyfriend. Why not?

One of the main questions people have is, you know, you didn't push for a conviction of your boyfriend or a charge of your then boyfriend. Why not?

One of the main questions people have is, you know, you didn't push for a conviction of your boyfriend or a charge of your then boyfriend. Why not?

Lala, thank you so much for talking to me today. That was Lala Appleberry, Executive Director of Survivor Network NC in the United States. So we've heard what sex trafficking is, the different forms it can take and how hard it can be to catch. But what about prosecuting the offence, convincing the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that this is what happened?

Lala, thank you so much for talking to me today. That was Lala Appleberry, Executive Director of Survivor Network NC in the United States. So we've heard what sex trafficking is, the different forms it can take and how hard it can be to catch. But what about prosecuting the offence, convincing the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that this is what happened?

Lala, thank you so much for talking to me today. That was Lala Appleberry, Executive Director of Survivor Network NC in the United States. So we've heard what sex trafficking is, the different forms it can take and how hard it can be to catch. But what about prosecuting the offence, convincing the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that this is what happened?

Well, my next guest, former federal prosecutor Elizabeth Geddes, has done exactly that. Hi, Liz. Nice to see you.

Well, my next guest, former federal prosecutor Elizabeth Geddes, has done exactly that. Hi, Liz. Nice to see you.

Well, my next guest, former federal prosecutor Elizabeth Geddes, has done exactly that. Hi, Liz. Nice to see you.

So benefit could be a promotion. Benefit could be actual cash in hand.

So benefit could be a promotion. Benefit could be actual cash in hand.

So benefit could be a promotion. Benefit could be actual cash in hand.

So we spoke earlier in the programme about force, fraud or coercion. Now, force, I understand how you could prove. I feel like bruises or physical damage, right? Fraud or coercion feels, once again, far more intangible.