Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty

In a public docket that people are going to pull from. Now the judge has issued a reprimand and partially granted that motion for sanctions. Doesn't that bolster her claim of retaliation? She's like, the retaliation was continuing even into filing these legal documents. They filed a factually baseless and frivolous lawsuit just to further smear my name.

No, Sean, olen todella kiitollinen, että sinut soittivat, koska Sean on... Ei, sinä et ole murhauskokeilussa. Meillä on muutamia soittimia, joita minun täytyy mennä läpi, joita minun täytyy huolehtia, jotta en pidä huolehtia päivän aikana Anushkasta. Oletko sinä saanut sen, oletko sinä saanut sen, oletko sinä saanut sen, joten me... ...kysyimme sinut siihen. Kyllä, koska prioriteettiin, se on Anushka-podcast, jota Sean ei vielä tiedä vihreästi nimiä. Minä tiedän sen. Mikä on nimi? Mikä?

I hate you. Goodbye. Have fun in court. Thank you so much. Have a great day. Thanks for having me. Bye honey. Thank you. Bye. That was our resident trial attorney Sean Kent from South Carolina. And that's it for this episode of Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds with me Anushka Matanda-Doughty. Keep sending us your questions on WhatsApp at 03306781114. That's 03306781114. And don't forget to subscribe and turn on your push notifications so you never miss a thing. Watch on iPlayer. Listen on BBC Sounds.

Hello and welcome back to Fame Under Fire from BBC Sounds with me, Anushka Matanda-Doughty. I'm going to start today with an update on the Scott Mills situation. Now a lot of you have been messaging asking what the situation is. I don't have an inside scoop. I'm finding things out the same time that you are, but I can give you a comprehensive breakdown. Now I'm recording this Thursday morning, so some more information might have broken by the time this episode comes out.

Mutta unenititseminen Scott Mills on aiemmin Radio 2-järjestäjä Scott Mills Breakfast Show, joka on suurin breakfast show Yhdysvalloissa. Viime viikolla Mills soitti viimeisen programin, sanoen, että olen takaisin huomenna 6.30, ja sitten ei ollut aiemmin jälkeen. Sitten seuraavaksi päivän jälkeen ilmoitettiin, että hän oli pysähtynyt BBCin jälkeen, ja seuraavaksi seuraavaksi hän oli pysähtynyt BBCin jälkeen.

The BBC said at the time, "...while we do not comment on matters relating to individuals, we can confirm Scott Mills is no longer contracted to work with the BBC." Then the Mirror, that's a newspaper in the UK, broke the story of issues around "...personal conduct relating to a historic male relationship dating back more than 10 years." The next day, the Metropolitan Police confirmed that in 2016 it had investigated allegations of "...serious sexual offences against a teenage boy."

reported to have taken place between 1997 and 2000. On Tuesday they clarified the teenager was under 16. Mills was questioned by police in 2018 and the investigation, which started in 2016, was closed in 2019 after the Crown Prosecution Service deemed there was insufficient evidence to bring charges. We have had no confirmation that the police investigation is the reason he was sacked from the BBC.

It has emerged that the BBC failed to reply to a question about allegations to do with Scott Mills from a freelance journalist in May last year. The BBC said, quote,

He continued, saying, quote, The BBC also says it did know about the police investigation into Scott Mills in 2017, but that he was sacked after new information came to light in recent weeks.

After that new information they did speak to Scott and as a result the BBC says it acted decisively in line with its culture and values to terminate his contract on the 27th of March. They said they're going to do more work to understand the detail of what was known by the BBC at the time. They also said there is a limit to what they can say because they have to be mindful of the rights of those involved. Now it is being reported that the BBC sacked Scott Mills because they discovered the alleged victim in the police investigation was under 16.

Last night, Scott Mills issued his first statement. He said the announcement of his sacking had led to, quote, the publication of rumor and speculation. He confirmed that he was the person at the center of the Metropolitan Police investigation. He added, quote, since the investigation related to an allegation that dates back nearly 30 years and the police investigation was closed seven years ago, I hope the public and the media will understand and respect my wish not to make any further comment on this matter. Mills said he fully cooperated and responded to the police investigation in 2018.

He added, quote, I wish to thank from the bottom of my heart all those who have reached out to me with kindness, my former colleagues and my beloved listeners, who I greatly miss. In his statement, Mills does not address the substance of the allegations, provide any further detail about them or offer a denial. He also does not go into what happened at the BBC and the reason for his sacking.

But for the rest of the program, we are back in the Epstein Files. Now, you know that since their release, there have been shockwaves around the world. We've told you about some of it on this program, but now attention has turned to the modeling industry and Epstein's relationship with owners of modeling agencies. Joining me, of course, to go through this is our resident trial attorney, Sean Kent, who's going to be on his best behavior today. Aren't you, Sean?

Olen valmis, Anushka. Miten teillä on? Haluaisin vain huomata, että Sean on syntynyt minuun ystävyyttä. Hän on usein sanonut minulle, että minulla on isompi kivi ja isompi kivi kivistä. Ja nyt pysyn. En menetä ulkopuolelta. Pysyn ilmaa. Joten kiitos, Sean. Ja minä vain kivin kivini ja hän sanoi, että se näyttää huonoa. En sanoi, että se on erittäin mielenkiintoinen väri. Sanoin, että haluan kivisi. Sinulla on paljon kivistä. Kyllä, se on se ajatus, jota haluan käyttää. Mielenkiintoinen. Kyllä, se on se, jota olin menossa.

Sinulla on kaunis rauha. Sinä olet rauhaperso. Nyt katsotaan. Olemme tehneet tätä jo aikaisemmin, Sean. Olemme käyneet kirjoja muutaman kerran. Olemme aina katsomassa eri paikoilla. Luulen, että niiden jälkeenpäätökset tulevat loppumaan todella pitkällä aikavälillä, koska se vaikuttaa niin moniin eri aloihin, yrityksiin, yrityksiin ja niin edelleen. Haluan mennä esiin joitain esityksiä tänään Epstein-kirjoissa. Laitan sinulle tehdä valoja täällä.

Meillä on tietoja, jotka eivät ole varattuja. Meillä on yrittäjien sanat, jotka ovat siellä. Ja meillä on myös e-mailit, jotka käsittelevät myöhemmin ja myöhemmin. Ja tämä on se kind of evidence that we are focusing on today. So the spotlight is on these messages between Epstein and Ramsey El-Kohli, who was a model scout based in the U.S.,

Lähtökohtaisesti järjestelmään näkyy, että hän esitteli naisia 18-vuotiaille Jeffrey Epsteinille. Hän keskusteli heidän yksikönsä, heidän seksuaalisuudestaan, ja haluan huomioida kuulijoille ennen kuin menemme esiin näistä viesteistä, että kieli on melko graafinen ja melko väärä, joten olkaa valmiita siihen. Ensimmäinen, jota haluan käsitellä, kuten aina, on EFTA-numero. Se on EFTA.

020 30 774. Just Google DOJ Epstein and you can go through the files yourself using that EFT number. You will get this message. This is from Ramsey sent to Jeffrey Epstein in 2011. I'm in Riga, Latvia. Amazing girls, many blondes with great bodies. Redacted emailed me saying you quote killed her with your words calling her silly etc.,

She is alone this last week in New York and has lost dollars, you put the dollar sign, on this trip. She is desperate for cash. I have been working on her. She agreed with me that posing in lingerie is part of her job and she told me she would have no problem to do that with you, but she doesn't have the courage to propose it herself. I know it doesn't seem like much, but it's a step. She plans on coming back to New York, so I'm thinking she could be an ongoing project."

For me, it's a great experiment. Taking a girl who hadn't been with a guy until she was 23, open brackets, exclamation mark, close brackets, and then getting her to this point. I think you're in a good position, because she is a drama queen, and in the past she has said similar things. Open brackets, Jeffrey killed me with his words, close brackets, and then you would call her the next day, and she would be happy. She's sufficiently confused...