Ansgar Dietrichs

And I

I agree.

It's very exciting.

I think both the execution layer side, the ZKVM scaling story, and then on the consensus layer, like these next generation upgrades we're planning there, very, very exciting.

I do think we should understand, though, in this moment in time, also...

I think we should try to become more and more the boring infrastructure layer.

And I think we should really like ready the stage for the applications.

And so I'm personally like incredibly excited for like the actual real world application side of crypto.

We're really starting to see this come online, agentic payments, real world assets, stablecoin payments.

All of this is incredibly exciting.

I think it's a great moment to be in crypto.

And yeah.

And of course, one last shout out there, maybe actually, if anyone listening to this was actually interested, excited by these technical details of everything we talked about, though, and actually wants to help on the infrastructure side, do reach out to me, I don't know, either on Twitter DM or unscarytheorem.org.

We also always, in principle, are hiring if any smart kid out there like really would want to join us here on the infrastructure side.

It's not the only exciting thing in crypto, but it is still very, very exciting.

And please come join us.