Ansgar Dietrichs

But you can imagine a world, and especially once you have this real-time element unlocked, you can imagine a world where, like, I don't know,

just to be futuristic here, like AI agents might use real-time ZK proofs to make provable statements for trustless interactions with each other, right?

Like some of that might be on-chain for direct asset-backed interactions, but some other things might just be literally just, ah, I'm just proving that I have access to this data and this data has this structure and that I, you know, all these kinds of statements, you can just down trivially real-time proof that you just couldn't before.

So I think

that's a five year down the road, maybe kind of thing, but five to 10 years, but that will come.

And that I think will be really exciting.

And then for example, I don't know if you've seen this, like more and more countries starting to introduce, I don't know, social media bans for like minors and that kind of stuff.

And like, usually that's implemented in a super dumb way.

You have to like, just they use a service, you have to upload your ID to the service, right?

And if we can replace that with like a ZK ID system where you really don't leak anything other than I own an ID and my birth date is above this level, this threshold, like,

Obviously, that's a much preferable world.

So I think we are currently like, I think blockchains and especially the Ethereum ecosystem is currently like funding this massive leap of the cryptography toolkit that we have.

And with some delay, five to 10 years delay, it will also hit the non-blockchain space.

And I think it will be super impactful.

Sounds good.

And one last caveat, just to repeat this, right?

Like I'm not personally a ZK expert.

I mean, obviously I'm in the loop on a lot of these things, but I'm more like a broader scaling expert.

So this is part of my job, but really we have absolutely amazing people.

So I'm sure I got like some of the minute details a little bit wrong and the people will scream at their monitors, but I hope I got the broader picture roughly right.