Anthony Geisler

opened a third one in kind of a blue-collar neighborhood, and they were all corporate at that point.

And at that point, I was out of capital to go forward, right?

I didn't come from a family that had money, and I didn't have enough assets to get an SBA loan or do any of those kinds of things.

And so once I got to three, I ended up meeting a franchise salesperson, and he said, you should be franchising this.

And I knew as much about franchising as, like, McDonald's existed or whatever at that point.

But I didn't know anything about it.

And, you know, it just kind of began my journey of franchising L.A.

boxing.

And I think that first one was...

2004, I think is when I sold that.

And I think we opened that in 2005.

It was LA boxing and we had sold the numbers get away from me now, but I believe it was close to 200 and we had close to 100 open, maybe, you know, 60, 70, 80, you know, something like that open.

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And the Fertittas came along from UFC.

They had created UFC Gym at that point.

I think they maybe had five locations.

They were really big boxes, you know, three and a half million bucks and 40,000 square feet.

They were really massive.

But those are hard to build and they're hard to franchise, right?

And so they came to me and said, hey, can, you know, can we change the name?